RE: OT RE: For French speakers only
- From: DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 11:31:46 -0600
Patrice
No, the Holy Roman Empire was a different country from the Roman Empire.
http://www.serendipity.li/twz/hre.html
The joke in the latter days was that it was neither holy nor Roman nor
an empire.
Okay, this thread has veered far enough off-topic, but you know how DBAs
can't stand incorrect information.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Boivin, Patrice J
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:02 AM
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Subject: OT RE: For French speakers only
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Did I get that right? You characterized the Roman Empire as unholy?
It was only Christian for about ninety years before Rome fell and the
Bizantine Empire continued where Rome had left off, but that doesn't mean
pre-Christian times were "unholy".
LOL
Patrice.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mladen Gogala [mailto:mladen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: March 8, 2004 2:17 PM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: For French speakers only
Phrase "lingua franca" literally means "the languge of the Francs". It is a
medieval
term, from the times of Carl the Great, the ruler of the Francs who was
crowned for
an Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (not to be confused with the rather
unholy one
that preceded it) and the language of the Francs was to become the new
official
language of the empire which encompassed more or less the whole Europe,
including
the infamous village in today's France. Thus the term "lingua franca". It
wasn't
to be. Instead of the term "lingua franca", we should use the term "lingua
saxonica",
because it was the language of the Saxons that became used all over the
world.
On 03/08/2004 10:59:45 AM, Carel-Jan Engel wrote:
> AFAIK Lingua Franca is, latin or spanish, but definitely not french. The
> book I lerad 'Papa fume un pipe' from was called 'la plus belle langue',
> where 'langue' means language.
>
> Regards, Carel-Jan
>
> ===
> If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. (Derek Bok)
> ===
>
> At 05:00 PM 3/8/2004, you wrote:
> >My personal preference is that English should stay lingua franca
> >of this list.
> >(If anyone wonders, the irony is deliberate. Lingua franca == French)
> >
> >On 03/08/2004 09:53:39 AM, "Goulet, Dick" wrote:
> > > Either that or they'd improve their English skills. Guess I'm going
to
> > have to find that Western European keyboard.
> > >
> > >
> > > Dick Goulet
> > > Senior Oracle DBA
> > > Oracle Certified 8i DBA
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jared.Still@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Jared.Still@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 1:11 PM
> > > To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: RE: For French speakers only
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Doing so would somewhat limit the number and quality of replies they
> > receive.
> > >
> > > I personally would be required to use babelfish.altatvista.com.
> > >
> > > Jared
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Goulet, Dick" <DGoulet@xxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent by: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> > > 03/07/2004 06:15 AM
> > > Please respond to oracle-l
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > cc:
> > > Subject: RE: For French speakers only
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stephen,
> > >
> > > You and your countrymen are free to use French here if
> > you like. Mine is VERY rusty, but the exercise would be useful.
> > >
> > > Dick Goulet
> > > Senior Oracle DBA
> > > Oracle Certified 8i DBA
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stephane Faroult [mailto:sfaroult@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 6:57 AM
> > > To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: For French speakers only
> > >
> > >
> > > All right, I am posting this in English because I find impolite to
post
> > > in a language that the majority doesn't understand, and all French
> > > speakers on this list also speak English, but it only concerns those
of
> > > you who feel more comfortable in French than in English.
> > > I have over the years met many good DBAs (many mediocre ones too, but
> > > this is another topic) whose command on English was sufficient for
> > > reading the docs but a bit 'light' to participate on this kind of list
> > > as actively as they might otherwise have. I have often advertised this
> > > list, but with little success amongst most French speakers. I guess
that
> > > many on this list have made the same observation.
> > > I have just created a list named oraclefr on freelists.org (just like
> > > oracle-l).
> > > You subscribe to this list by sending email to
> > > oraclefr-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web
> > > interface.
> > > I don't expect the traffic to be huge, especially in the beginnings,
so
> > > I guess that it will be easier to subscribe to both oracle-l and
> > > oraclefr than to oracle-l and the lazydba list (I dare hardly mention
> > > the off-topic list). Please advertise widely, especially to people who
> > > are English-shy.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Stephane Faroult
> > > Oriole
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