Re: OT: Oracle Critical Patch Article

The article predates the CPU, and indeed the survey may well predate the
last one.

I asked a similar question to a room full of apps dbas at UKOUG - though to
be fair I was talking about how to apply CPUs to EBS so it was a biased
audience. There were probably 75-100 people in the room (53 responded to the
questionnaire and you never get everyone). 1 person was up to date, at least
2/3rd had never applied a CPU. Other people tend to find similar results.

On the "we are not exposed to the internet" front, that has some merit but
then the vast majority of attacks are internal anyway.

Niall

On Jan 15, 2008 5:12 PM, Paul Drake <bdbafh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>
> On Jan 15, 2008 10:42 AM, Taylor, Chris David <
> Chris.Taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >  How many of you guys have seen this?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9057226&source=NLT_PM&nlid=8
> >
> >
> >
> > What are your thoughts?  I know our organization falls into that
> > category but primarily because we aren't exposed to the outside world.  We
> > don't have external applications so most times I believe that critical patch
> > updates can be applied during a normal maintenance period.
> >
> >
> >
> > *chris*
> >
> Chris,
>
> The press release is located here:
> http://www.sentrigo.com/press_releases-newsid-39.htm
>
> and Pete Finnigan wrote about it here:
> http://www.petefinnigan.com/weblog/archives/00001141.htm
>
> Clearly, the company providing the figures has a self interest in having a
> market for its products and services (which is disclaimed at the bottom of
> the press release page).
>
> "When asked: "Have you installed *the latest* Oracle CPU?" – Just 31
> people, or ten percent of the 305 respondents, reported that they applied
> the most recently issued Oracle CPU."
>
> I just downloaded "the latest" critical patch update this morning, as that
> is when it was released. I plan to apply it in a testing environment later
> this afternoon.
> Perhaps semantics matter here just a bit.
>
> Only 35 people in the survey replied yes to one of the questions. That's a
> fairly small sample, statistically speaking. If a dba only gathered
> (estimated) stats with a sample size of 32 blocks out of a table with say
> 32K blocks, I doubt that the stats would be very accurate.
>
> Would developers be inclined to apply critical patch updates to
> development servers (where there is no formal dba position)? I would think
> not.
>
> Are critical patch updates available for Oracle XE databases? No.
>
> Are some applications running on database versions or patchsets that do
> not have critical patch updates made available? Yes. (8.1.7.4 and 
> 10.1.0.4spring to mind.)
>
> Would a dba be concerned about remote vulnerabilities for databases that
> support only connections from application servers that are secured? Probably
> not.
>
> I'm skeptical that the results are representative and are useful for
> anything other than stirring discussion (and marketing).
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>


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Niall Litchfield
Oracle DBA
http://www.orawin.info

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