RE: OMS and Repository Preferences

RAC is not free, that's exactly the point Kellyn was making.  If you want to 
use RAC under your EM repository, that's an add-on, paid option.

Pete

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-----Original Message-----
From: John Hallas [mailto:John.Hallas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, 13 April 2012 6:37 AM
To: kellyn.potvin@xxxxxxxxx; tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Oracle- L@ Free Lists.org
Subject: RE: OMS and Repository Preferences

RAC free for OEM - new one on me (although we do have site licenses so have had 
no need to investigate to a great detail)

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-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Kellyn Pot'vin
Sent: 12 April 2012 16:37
To: tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Oracle- L@ Free Lists.org
Subject: Re: OMS and Repository Preferences

Since without EM, we DBA's are often in the dark, I appreciate the proposal of 
RAC for the environment, but doesn't this kill the free licensing option that 
many companies take advantage of to keep costs down?  I would prefer to use my 
EM monitoring and alert script vs. having to go to my manager and explain to 
him that I need more budget for licensing costs!  Correct me if RAC is free for 
EM, but I see no documentation saying otherwise.
Thanks!
 
Kellyn Pot'Vin
Senior Technical Consultant
Enkitec
DBAKevlar.com


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 From: Tim Hall <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: kellyn.potvin@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: "Oracle- L@ Free Lists.org" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: OMS and Repository Preferences
 
Hi.

Take a look at this:

http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E24628_01/doc.121/e24473/ha_intro.htm#EMADM10659

From your description it sounds like you are only planning a level 1 setup (1 
repository instance and 1 OMS instance). If that is the case, I see very little 
benefit to having it on 2 machines, as opposed to 1.
If either DB or OMS machine dies it's all gone anyway. Since the two servers in 
this setup provide no additional resilience, I would prefer a simpler solution 
of a single server myself.

Of course, if the plan is to move to a more resilient solution in the future, 
it may alter my opinion somewhat.

Cheers

Tim...

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Kellyn Pot'vin <kellyn.potvin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I know it's common for many folks to separate their OMS from their repository 
> for Enterprise Manager-  I haven't been one to do this in the past due to, 
> OK, just going to say it, flaky network connectivity in previous environments 
> that would cause *false* communication alerts with the OMS components to/from 
> the repository.  I now have new clients, new systems to work on and at least 
> two EM12c environments to build out in the near future.
> So here's my question:
> What is your preference when building an Enterprise Manager 
> environment?  Do you house the OMS and the repository on the same host 
> or separately and I want to know WHY you build it one way or the 
> other, not just "It just should be that way.. " :)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kellyn Pot'Vin
> Senior Technical Consultant
> Enkitec
> DBAKevlar.com
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