Maybe not worth it for you, but that depends - many employers still require certification. I learned a lot from my studying for the certifications, but that was a result of the effort I put into it. I also read the material thoroughly and practice to make sure I understand the concepts and don't just remember the syntax for the test. I took the online (instructor-led) course a few years back and it did quailify for the Oracle course back then, but that could've changed by now so you'd better confirm with Oracle. Funny thing is that you don't really even have to be there - you could just log your PC in for the course and then go out to the beach for the day, so the whole course requirement is a joke as far as I'm concerned. I think it serves more to make extra money for Oracle Education rather than improve the image of the OCP. Regards, Brandon ________________________________ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ryan_gaffuri@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:38 AM To: sjaffarhussain@xxxxxxxxx; DEVA@xxxxxxxx Cc: Syed Jaffar Hussain; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: OCP DBA question? its not worth the cost of an oracle course to get certified. I am certified and it has little to no value. if you just want to learn the information and prove that you know it, then study for the tests. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Syed Jaffar Hussain" <sjaffarhussain@xxxxxxxxx> OCA doesn't have any pre-requisits. Without attending any OU course, one can sit for OCA. In order to complete OCP, one need to provide the pre-requisit course attendance details before. 2. Does a online course/CBT perhaps qualify as a hands on? This need to cross check with the prerequisits. Or probably sending an email to ocp exam team would be good idea. On 2/28/07, Denham Eva <DEVA@xxxxxxxx> wrote: This email is subject to Terms and Conditions as found in our Email Legal Notice which forms part of this email message in terms of section 11 of the Electronic Communications and Transaction Act 25 of 2002. Please click on http://www.mf.co.za/content/EMAIL_Legal_Notice.asp <http://www.mf.co.za/content/EMAIL_Legal_Notice.asp> , or send a blank email to disclaim@xxxxxxxx <mailto:disclaim@xxxxxxxx> . By receiving, reading or acting upon this email you will automatically be bound by the terms of the Email Legal Notice. Mutual & Federal Insurance Company Limited Authorised Financial Services Provider ________________________________ Hello, I have been wanting to do my certification for awhile but as a contractor it means having to loose income and paying ZAR12000 which equates to a huge chunk of finance in South Africa. My question is this: 1. Can I write the exams and do the required hands on course at the end or is it a requirement for doing at the begining of the certification. 2. Does a online course/CBT perhaps qualify as a hands on? (As time is a problem - always :-) Lets face it passing the exam is the point is it not? Rather than warming an Oracle University seat? TIA Regards denham -- Best Regards, Syed Jaffar Hussain Oracle ACE 8i,9i & 10g OCP DBA http://jaffardba.blogspot.com/ http://www.oracle.com/technology/community/oracle_ace/ace1.html#hussain ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------- "Winners don't do different things. They do things differently." Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message or attachments hereto. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it.