RE: Normalization

  • From: Pete Sharman <peter.sharman@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 04:53:08 +1000

I still actually have that book (largely because it's where I got the line =
in my sig from) and in that version it quotes George Koch (Oracle7, The Com=
plete Reference) as saying "No major application will run in Third Normal F=
orm".  Kevin's book was actually written in 94, but you were pretty close.

I had a scan through the 10g version of the complete reference, and can't s=
ee that same quote anywhere.

 =

Pete
 =

"Controlling developers is like herding cats."
Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
 =

"Oh no, it's not.  It's much harder than that!"
Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA

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Subject: RE: Normalization



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Subject:        Re: Normalization
On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 11:09, Daniel Fink wrote:
> I recall a quotation to the effect that no database will perform adequate=
ly
> in 3rd Normal Form. To me this defines the difference between theory and
...

I first saw this in the first editon of the Official Oracle DBA Hanbook, =

published by Oracle Press; the edition which covered Version 6 and the =

beginnings of Version 7.(circa 1993)  I no longer have that book, but I =

remembered it being in the 8i edition.  I found it on page 323, where =

it is attributed to ORACLE8: the Complete Reference.  I don't know if =

it has disappeared from more recent editions.

The reason for bringing this all up is that 10 years ago, this was reasonab=
le
advice.  In the systems I have worked with in the last two years, I have
honestly never come accross a situation where denormalizing was ever needed=
.=

In fact, we have had several situations where the solution was to re-normal=
ize an old denormalized design.


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