RE: More on Oracle Support
- From: "William Wagman" <wjwagman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Alex Gorbachev" <ag@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:29:26 -0700
I am on hold at the moment waiting to speak with the duty manager to
request clarification.
Thanks.
Bill Wagman
Univ. of California at Davis
IET Campus Data Center
wjwagman@xxxxxxxxxxx
(530) 754-6208
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From: Alex Gorbachev [mailto:ag@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 8:23 PM
To: William Wagman
Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: More on Oracle Support
Well, the model of Oracle Support is flown in principle. You pay pre-
defined amount of support fees per year and the less they do for you,
the better the business. If there is competitive service available -
such approach could benefit only in very short term. But you can't
simply change support vendor - you do need updates and access to
support in some cases so you can't change them to another competitive
provider. Unless you are willing to change to another database but I'm
not sure if support from other DB vendors is better.
This is why existence of strong user communities, such as Oracle-L, is
great. If you need more than community support, there are other
service providers that can apply more intensive therapy to your Oracle
databases and, perhaps, provide special skills to deal with Oracle
Support. You can call it advanced support if you wish.
But I digress... Practical advise would be to request formal
requirements without guidance to a specific firewall implementation.
You should feel free to call Oracle support and request to speak to
manager on duty and inform him about this concern and how important
this case for your company and how many millions you are loosing and
etc. I noticed that often DBA's are not comfortable in such
conversation and management involvement (you would need somewhat pushy
approach) provides good results. There is no need to know technical
details -- just need to emphasize importance and ask to escalate.
Cheers,
Alex
On 3-Apr-08, at 7:40 PM, William Wagman wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I find myself again frustrated with Oracle support and I'm looking for
> some feedback. I recently encountered difficulties with CRS
> functioning
> on a two node cluster running on 32-bit linux with Oracle 10.2.0.3.0
> SE.
> I opened an SR with Oracle and ultimately the problem was resolved by
> turning off firewalls and insuring that SELinux was not enabled. I am
> not completely aware of the firewall configurations as those are
> handled
> by the system administrator. At any rate, when the problems were
> resolved I asked the analyst for some information regarding firewall
> configurations and CRS and he offered that if we have Linux support
> from
> Oracle he could ask the linux group. He said this was a question re
> CRS
> pre-requisites. I'm puzzled, I would expect that if these are in fact
> CRS pre-requisites that Oracle should be able to answer them, after
> all,
> isn't CRS an Oracle product? I'm not sure how to respond or if I am
> even
> expecting too much from them. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bill Wagman
> Univ. of California at Davis
> IET Campus Data Center
> wjwagman@xxxxxxxxxxx
> (530) 754-6208
>
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