Although I have little use for Metalink unless I absolutely HAVE NO CHOICE but to log an SR, (I don't know about most folks, but I really do feel like I spend more time sending them information and end up figuring out how to fix it myself than it would have taken me to just figure out originally how to fix it myself...) as for OCM- DON'T get me STARTED!! Somebody decided to be too smart for their own britches and implemented the OCM stats jobs into our 10g data warehouse and data marts and I am not thrilled with the results. I could do a better job figuring out what objects need updated stats in my sleep! I just need to convince everyone else that there is a reason that processes complete when *Kellyn collects stats* and that it's not just new DBA dumb luck... :) Kellyn Pedersen Multi-Platform DBA I-Behavior Inc. http://www.linkedin.com/in/kellynpedersen "Go away before I replace you with a very small and efficient shell script..." --- On Tue, 11/10/09, Martin Brown <martinfbrown@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Martin Brown <martinfbrown@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: Metalink Fiasco To: jkstill@xxxxxxxxx Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 6:14 PM I'm just curious.... how many of you guys and gals are felling warm and fuzzy about OCM these days? As for me, I don't think I'm quite ready yet....;-D. From: jkstill@xxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:04:39 -0800 Subject: Re: Metalink Fiasco To: daniel.fink@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx CC: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Daniel Fink <daniel.fink@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: he asked who took our online My Oracle Support training? When only 2 hands went up (in a room of 90), his response was to chastise us for not taking the training. I spent some time on the training yesterday. It is quite tedious. 'A' for effort, as it was well put together. For an experienced ML user though, a 45 minute session with 5 minutes of useful information is very difficult to sit through. There are some other targeted sessions that may be more useful, such as patch management. I have learned the most though just when navigating through the tool. For a newby, the training would be great. For someone experienced with ML, it wasn't that helpful, at least the couple sessions I watched. Jared StillCertifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist Oracle Blog: http://jkstill.blogspot.com Home Page: http://jaredstill.com Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.