I guess Amazon is planing to provide those kind of service, at least, MySQL service as AMZ RDS,
and in their website, they will provide oracle version of RDS soon.The thing is what kind of availability you want? AMZ RDS request 4 hours [more or less] every week for potential maintenance task, it maybe nothing this week, but how can you make sure to avoid scenarios like while someday you are going to use your db, the db is under maintenance ???
And some companies' sensitive data is not like the files in your dropbox folder :) if you need put it under the firewall of a private cloud network, that is another cost ...
Anyway, I think it will be a trend for future usage of DB, but I am not sure when it will come to be a industry choice... I am not a good fan of AMZ RDS current now, because all availability you get is what AMZ can provide, remember last month what happened ?
and , Can they really provide Point in time recovery till to the exact time that disaster happened also ???
thanks a lot. Yours Danny Leyi Zhang (Kamus) wrote:
Hi Tim I'm serious. I'm just curious why we have to pay for the software licenses if provider can earn the same money from their service as the old license mode. Think about salesforce.com, do we pay for the database license we are used separately? The Oracle/Amazon combined service you have mentioned is still the same old fashion for Oracle - selling license, not selling service. If I am the CTO, if there's such a service I can choose, I will be very interesting: 1. I can pay for only 1 CPU and 2GB Mem from 18:00 - 8:00 every day and pay for extra 20 CPU and 80G mem from 8:00 - 18:00 or vise visa. 2. I don't need to consider how to construct a data center with office space, power, cooling, bandwidth, networks, servers, and storage, etc 3. When the new version CPU and harddisk/SSD and memory chip released, I don't need to worry about the cost for upgrade the hardware and migrate the database from the old machine to the new machine, since cloud provider will do it for me with no cost or with a little cost and even with a zero down time. 4. I don't need to worry about how to deliver the service in the other city when we expand our business, since the database in cloud can be easily access from the other city. There still a lot of things we can dream about, I'm not kidding, I really feel very interested in it although I know there's a long way to go. -- Kamus <kamusis@xxxxxxxxx> Visit my blog for more : http://www.dbform.com Join ACOUG: http://www.acoug.org On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Tim Hall <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:You are joking right? Of course you have to pay for software licenses. If you wait for the new combined Oracle/Amazon offering you can pay a per-hour charge that includes both the Amazon EC2 cost and the Oracle licensing costs. http://aws.amazon.com/rds/oracle/ This means you will be able to pay-as-you-use with Oracle for the first time, but I expect it will still work in favor of Oracle as far as costs are concerned if you were to run an instance for a whole year. With all Amazon EC2 stuff you are responsible for being licensed properly. You can either use your own licenses, or pay the price that incorporates the license cost. either way you are not getting OS or database software for free. If you are not licensed properly you are breaking the law just like any other situation. Cheers Tim... On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Leyi Zhang (Kamus) <kamusis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi lists I'm personally using Amazon EC2/S3 for testing, and I know Dropbox is totally depend on Amazon S3, and Quora also use EC2 and S3 heavily. So what do you guys think if Oracle can release a product/service based on their Elastic Cloud Platform (for example Exalogic+Exadata) ? If using this service, we customer will not need to pay for software license anymore, just like how we using Amazon EC2/S3, we only need to pay for the CPU/Mem/Storage we actually used. Do you guys think this is an win-win idea for the Entry level/Midrange enterprise customer and Oracle? -- Kamus <kamusis@xxxxxxxxx> Visit my blog for more : http://www.dbform.com Join ACOUG: http://www.acoug.org -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l-- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l
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