Re: How do you think about Oracle's EC2/S3?
- From: "Leyi Zhang (Kamus)" <kamusis@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Tim Hall <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 00:30:19 +0800
Hi Tim
I'm serious. I'm just curious why we have to pay for the software
licenses if provider can earn the same money from their service as the
old license mode. Think about salesforce.com, do we pay for the
database license we are used separately?
The Oracle/Amazon combined service you have mentioned is still the
same old fashion for Oracle - selling license, not selling service.
If I am the CTO, if there's such a service I can choose, I will be
very interesting:
1. I can pay for only 1 CPU and 2GB Mem from 18:00 - 8:00 every day
and pay for extra 20 CPU and 80G mem from 8:00 - 18:00 or vise visa.
2. I don't need to consider how to construct a data center with office
space, power, cooling, bandwidth, networks, servers, and storage, etc
3. When the new version CPU and harddisk/SSD and memory chip released,
I don't need to worry about the cost for upgrade the hardware and
migrate the database from the old machine to the new machine, since
cloud provider will do it for me with no cost or with a little cost
and even with a zero down time.
4. I don't need to worry about how to deliver the service in the other
city when we expand our business, since the database in cloud can be
easily access from the other city.
There still a lot of things we can dream about, I'm not kidding, I
really feel very interested in it although I know there's a long way
to go.
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On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Tim Hall <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> You are joking right? Of course you have to pay for software licenses.
>
> If you wait for the new combined Oracle/Amazon offering you can pay a
> per-hour charge that includes both the Amazon EC2 cost and the Oracle
> licensing costs.
>
> http://aws.amazon.com/rds/oracle/
>
> This means you will be able to pay-as-you-use with Oracle for the
> first time, but I expect it will still work in favor of Oracle as far
> as costs are concerned if you were to run an instance for a whole
> year.
>
> With all Amazon EC2 stuff you are responsible for being licensed
> properly. You can either use your own licenses, or pay the price that
> incorporates the license cost. either way you are not getting OS or
> database software for free. If you are not licensed properly you are
> breaking the law just like any other situation.
>
> Cheers
>
> Tim...
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Leyi Zhang (Kamus) <kamusis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi lists
>>
>> I'm personally using Amazon EC2/S3 for testing, and I know Dropbox is
>> totally depend on Amazon S3, and Quora also use EC2 and S3 heavily.
>>
>> So what do you guys think if Oracle can release a product/service
>> based on their Elastic Cloud Platform (for example Exalogic+Exadata) ?
>> If using this service, we customer will not need to pay for software
>> license anymore, just like how we using Amazon EC2/S3, we only need to
>> pay for the CPU/Mem/Storage we actually used.
>> Do you guys think this is an win-win idea for the Entry level/Midrange
>> enterprise customer and Oracle?
>>
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