Re: How best to get Oracle to divulge "proprietary information"

  • From: ryan_gaffuri@xxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: sacrophyte@xxxxxxxxx, "Oracle Freelists.org" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:52:38 +0000

They have competitors. If they have a feature that is even a little better than 
their competitors and they provide information on how they created it, then 
their competitors can copy it. Now their competitors have alot of smart people. 
They probably have Oracle installed on their systems and have people backward 
engineering it to figure out how they are doing things. However, this takes 
time and costs money. Oracle probably has SQL Server installed and is doing the 
same thing. 

Coca Cola has been around for since the 19th century and they still keep their 
mix secret. There is a famous Hot Dog chain started in New York called 'Nathans 
Hotdogs'. They actually have several vendors make parts of their mix and then 
combine it so no one knows what they are doing. They have been around since I 
think the 1920s. 

This stuff has major economic value. 

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Charles Schultz" <sacrophyte@xxxxxxxxx> 
I am sure many of you, like me, have been befuddled when Oracle refuses to 
answer a question because of "proprietary information". Has anyone had any luck 
in arguing, convincing, persuading, bribing or otherwise cajoling Oracle in 
this regard? Does/can IOUG sometimes leverage "scientific" arguments to 
disclose information for the user community's benefit? 

I completely understand that there is an issue of intellectual property rights 
and that Oracle does not want some script kiddie to duplicate key features. 
Yet, I do not understand why Oracle does not offer more information to DBAs so 
that they can understand the kernel better. I have a hard time believing that 
this is merely a ploy to keep Oracle Support in service with money in its 
pockets - it seems to me that Oracle Support is already overworked as it is, 
and they could use a little help from well-meaing users. I cannot tell you how 
hard I laugh when a Support Analyst quotes Jonathan Lewis (or some other 
non-Oracle employee big name). 

Or am I barking up the wrong tree?

-- 
Charles Schultz 

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