RE: Heads Up on Grid Control 10.2

As for patching.

 

I'm trying to patch r1 to r2.  What a mess.  Didn't work.  And Metalink
doesn't respond.

 

I'm hoping to get a release 2 CD and start all over again.

 


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From: Jared Still [mailto:jkstill@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:35 PM
To: Matthew Zito
Cc: Ron.Reidy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Mercadante, Thomas F (LABOR);
niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx; Christian Antognini; oracle-l
Subject: Re: Heads Up on Grid Control 10.2

 

We did a limited demo provisioning pack, patching a 9i database.

Though the database patch I did went smoothly, I would have to 
see something more convincing than that single demo.

There have been too many patch failures in my past.  

We also created a database clone.  That is fairly simple
though when compared to patching.

Provisioning has other features (bare metal installs, OS and Oracle)
but we didn't see any of that.

I might add that this is GC 10gR2.  We were told that it 
works *much* better than GC 10gR1.  So maybe the provisioning
has been improved a bit over the previous version.

Jared



On 9/29/06, Matthew Zito <mzito@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Did they demo the provisioning pack?  We've had limited success getting
it to work in our labs, and most of our customers have given up trying
to get it work after a while.  I'm curious what they showed in that
area.

 

Thanks,

Matt

         

        
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        From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Still
        Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:13 PM
        To: Ron.Reidy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Cc: Thomas.Mercadante@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx; Christian Antognini; oracle-l
        Subject: Re: Heads Up on Grid Control 10.2

        The GC workshop was fairly successful.
        
        I actually liked GC, which is quite different from my
experiences with OEM.
        
        We didn't install it, just learned some of the features and how
to use it.
        
        If you can spend the $$ on the diagnostics pack, it appeared it
would 
        be a worthwhile purchase.  The client makes it fairly easy to
drill down
        on problem SQL (which is usually the problem, right?), see the
execution 
        plan, run the SQL profiler (if you bought the $$ SQL tuning
pack) and 
        play what-if with the SQL.
        
        There was an embarrassing moment for the instructor though, when
        an error popped up trying to show one of the features.  A
problematic
        feature apparently, as she had just finished warning us about
some 
        things occasionally causing trouble.  oops.
        
        A call to the data center in Austin got it fixed.  The feature
in question
        involves running a copy of the Oracle Intelligent Agent in
'beacon'
        mode on a remote PC.  The agent will periodically replay a
transaction 
        (Web based, or C/S based), and allow you to do end-to-end
analysis
        on the latencies of the transaction.  Very nice feature, worthy
of further
        investigation.
        
        Sorry, I did not get the opportunity to ask about the questions
raised in Oracle-L, 
        the class was overbooked, we all used our own notebooks, and the
tech
        folks were kept quite busy.
        
        I did ask explicity questions about licensing however.  If you
are licensed
        to use Oracle, you are licensed to use GC.  This includes Oracle
Application 
        Server, as a runtime license only, as well as the database, also
runtime.
        
        You will need to pay for $$ for the extra packs.  
        
           Diagnostic and SQL Tuning packs - Diag a prereq for the SQL
pack.
           Provisioning Pack 
           Change Mgt Pack
        
        Those are all extra $$, as well as some of the plugins.  SQL
Server, DB2, ...
        
        -- 
        Jared Still
        Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist
        
        




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Jared Still
Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist

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