Mladen, What I meant was that we are pretty free to complain about Oracle in general, and the special features we have to put up with in the new releases. If you owned a company, would you pay for a web site and allow bashing like this? I would think that you'd control the content to make sure that your company always came out looking good. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -----Original Message----- From: Gogala, Mladen [mailto:Mladen.Gogala@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 9:37 AM To: 'thomas.mercadante@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'; 'cjpengel.dbalert@xxxxxxxxx'; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Google has the *right* idea So, this is a "no spin" zone? O'Adams factor? First, there was the Oh'Really factor, then came the O'Franken factor and now this list is becoming yet another factor? -- Mladen Gogala A & E TV Network Ext. 1216 > -----Original Message----- > From: Mercadante, Thomas F > [mailto:thomas.mercadante@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 8:44 AM > To: 'cjpengel.dbalert@xxxxxxxxx'; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: Google has the *right* idea > (with cash) an open forum like this one - it would soon be > crushed with the spin (sales) doctors. -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l