I'm not sure whether people remember that the reason it became possible to put the various dump and trace files to different places in the first place (circa 1988 with V6) was that it facilitated putting the output to different mount points and inode branches. In the era of much slower (and usually with no write cache) disk farms and file systems, it was not hard at all to make writing trace information, alert logs, and the various dump areas THE bottleneck to Oracle database server throughput. What I have not measured is whether the diag_dest scenario can become a bottleneck, but I suspect this is not an issue because of the combination of write cache, better handling of huge inode branches, and disk throughput. Since they have adrci, though, I tend to agree with Niall that they didn't have to break things to put this in place. No reason adrci couldn't read a configuration instead of making customers carefully put symbolic links in place to make old script sets work. (And I don't know what you do in the operating systems of the convicted monopolists to make the equivalent fix up.) The configuration file (or reading init or spfile) would also have served as a dictionary of what lives where. Still, I appreciate Oracle trying to make improvements. A little more creativity in reducing the affect of such changes on the installed base would be appreciated even more. And yes, this is definitely an exadata_fusion_grid_soa_bpel issue. But why did you leave out RAC and SAME? _____ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Connor McDonald Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 9:18 AM To: oracle-l Subject: Re: Filewatcher frustration The secret is to put an enhancement request in to get the diag_dest parameter changed to: exadata_fusion_grid_soa_bpel_dest = .... which will get the marketing bods salivating sufficiently to get some work done on it :-) On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Niall Litchfield <niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I don't see any reason at all why a new facility shouldn't have its logging and tracing infrastructure mandated as part of the design. (actually I think retrofitting the old components and enhancing adrci for them would be a good plan as well, but probably not one that sores highly on the marketing bumf). <snip>