Re: Filesystem backups

  • From: Guillermo Alan Bort <cicciuxdba@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: janine@xxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 08:44:06 -0300

I don't think that is right. The veeeery outdated user managed backup (I'm a
strong RMAN advocate) works that way. You take the datafiles, control files
and archivelos with the database in backup mode, and afterwards you only
need archivelog backup. Just make sure you don't loose any archivelog since
you put the DB in backup mode at least until the DB is off backup mode
again.

For recovery purposes, when you use the 'using backup controlfile' statement
in the recover database, it will allow you to use any and all consecutive
archivelogs since the filesystem backup.

As for flashback data, I am not sure since I've only played with it for
simple things and almost never have the database in flashback mode (due to
'stardards').

hth
Alan.-


On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Janine Sisk <janine@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I currently have my 11g (R2, EE, Linux) instance set up with datafiles on
> one volume and the flash recovery area on another.  One form of backup I am
> taking consists of filesystem snapshots (this is on Amazon's EC2).  I put
> the database into backup mode, take a snapshot of the datafiles, take it out
> of backup mode.  Once I get my RMAN setup sorted out then it will run next,
> and after that I take a snapshot of the flash recovery area.
>
> It occurs to me that having the two snapshots separated by an hour probably
> means that if I had to recover from them, there's a good chance that they'd
> be out of sync;  the archive logs, flashback database, etc could be newer
> than what Oracle expects.
>
> In the event that I lost my current volumes and had to run from the above
> snapshots - I know that Oracle might reject some of my archive log and
> flashback data, which would affect my ability to do point in time recovery.
>  But I think I would be ok otherwise, that is, Oracle would run and would
> not notice that the files were out of sync unless I tried to do recovery.
>
> Does this sound right?  Yes, I can and will test it, but there's no way for
> me to be sure that I've hit all the possible combinations of things being
> out of sync.
>
> I split this into two volumes thinking it would be a good idea to spread
> the I/O around a bit, especially while RMAN is running (EBS volumes are not
> exactly speedy, particularly for writes).  I could consolidate it back into
> one volume if this is going to be a huge problem;  I can't think of any
> other way to ensure that the backups are in sync.
>
> Thanks in advance!!!
>
> janine
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