Ok, so I downloaded the 10.2.0.5 "patch" for Grid Control (Windows). It's 2 files, each is 1 GB or so. So, I open the 2nd zip file, and it is ANOTHER zip file. So I extract it, and it's the same size. So, they zipped the 2nd part that was already zipped and they actually used MORE space by zipping it twice. (Only a few bytes but still). Sometimes I hate messing with Grid Control. I swear they make this product too difficult by half. Chris Taylor Sr. Oracle DBA Ingram Barge Company Nashville, TN 37205 Office: 615-517-3355 Cell: 615-354-4799 Email: chris.taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:chris.taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and delete the contents of this message without disclosing the contents to anyone, using them for any purpose, or storing or copying the information on any medium.