Keep in mind, I believe you are allowed to use all the packs for 30 days under the development license that comes with the download, and there is no separate installation required for them. They are installed whether you want/license/use them or not. So you can take them for a test drive and then decide if you want to license them or not. As far as I understand - Oracle just trusts you to not use them if you haven't licensed them and I'm sure their lawyers wouldn't be too gentle with you if they caught you running them w/o a license, but I've never heard any stories about how that actually goes in real life - maybe someone on the list has a story to share? Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and do not represent Oracle in anyway so please read the license carefully that comes with your software to verify whether you can really run the packs for 30 days or not. If I'm wrong someone please correct me. Niall Litchfield <niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: absolutely correct. On 7/13/06, d cheng <dc4oracle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: So even if we only installed the DB Control (not GRID Control), we still need to disable access to the various Packs if we didn't install them and are not licensed to use them ? Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message or attachments hereto. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it.