RE: Controlling developers is like herding cats
- From: "Goulet, Dick" <DGoulet@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:56:24 -0500
Hey, lay off the cats will you!! At least when you try to herd them down a
hallway, with the appropriate sized squirt bottle they run in the direction you
want. Duhvelopers instead turn around & run at you!!
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
-----Original Message-----
From: April Wells [mailto:AWells@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:58 AM
To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: Controlling developers is like herding cats
See, I knew I heard it somewhere...
It is also (at least on Windows) a lot like trying to herd jellyfish ... just
as difficult as cats, and every once in a while you get stung a bit.
April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas
@>-->-->--
"Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite"
Adam Wells age 11
"Imagination is the highest kite one can fly."
Lauren Bacall
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Gorman [mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 10:05 PM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Controlling developers is like herding cats
Barbara Matthews ( http://www.OnCallDBA.com) presented "Managing the Concurrent
Manager: Herding Cats" at IOUW 1994, I think it was. She has since updated
that original paper for R10.7, R11.0.3, and R11i, in addition to newer papers
on month-end weedwhacking in Oracle Apps...
on 3/22/04 10:33 AM, April Wells at AWells@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
administering financials (11i e-business suite) has been referred to by the
same euphemism...
April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas
@>-->-->--
"Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite"
Adam Wells age 11
"Imagination is the highest kite one can fly."
Lauren Bacall
-----Original Message-----
From: jtesta@xxxxxxxxxx [ mailto:jtesta@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 11:28 AM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Controlling developers is like herding cats
Juan, its just Pete's signature line, dont get too worked up about it :)
joe
> This is true ryan,
> But comments like "Controlling developers is like herding cats"
> Seems that someone have problems organizing the work,
> Independently of who is responsible of that, they must be solved.
>
> The point is if some one wants to talk about their problems as dba,
> working with other people and how to solve them.
> I have some experience and this could be interesting, sahre ideas found
> to solve them.
> Now if no body have problems with that then there is no reason for this
> post.
> :)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ryan.gaffuri@xxxxxxx>
> To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 1:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Controlling developers is like herding cats
>
>
>> your question is vague. what do you mean by organizing developers. its
>> not
> the DBAs responsibility to do that. It's their management's
> responsibility.
>>
>> what do you mean?
>> >
>> > From: "Juan Cachito Reyes Pacheco" <jreyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Date: 2004/03/22 Mon AM 10:32:06 EST
>> > To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Subject: Controlling developers is like herding cats
>> >
>> > I don't know if some dba, want to talk about the way to solve
>> > organizing a group of developer (including times, work to be done,
>> quality control, etc.)
>> > We have some experience, and had developed a software for internal
>> use,
>> >
>> > Maybe someone want to talk about this, I think this is a critical
>> work for the dba.
>> >
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