NetApp does not have a CFS. They have a single-headed filesystem called WAFL. They used to talk about Spinnaker, but I haven't heard that term in ages. In fact, the last thing I heard about scalable NetApp (ala Spinnaker) was the press release when they bought the company. If you want a single file served by multiple scalable NAS heads without replication overhead, you have to use the EFS.CG. It is the only product out there that does it. I found the HP gateway with Google pretty quickly: http://h18006.www1.hp.com/products/storageworks/efs/ ________________________________ From: Maimon Oded [mailto:oded.maimon@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:43 AM To: kevinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Cluster file systems versus raw devices in Oracle RAC i don't know what is StorageWorks Enterprise File Server Clustered Gateway, i was talking about something like NETAPP storage. On 12/29/05, Kevin Closson < kevinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:kevinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: what does "NFS of CFS" mean? Exporting a CFS? Yeah, that's being done. It's called the StorageWorks Enterprise File Server Clustered Gateway by HP. Up to 16 nodes of scalable NFS with transparent NFS client failover in the event a NAS head should fail. And when I say transparent, I mean it. Oracle CRS, and database processes have no idea that the NAS head serviing up their files has died. Not exactly the typical filer experience. Yeah, I know you can "cluster" and replicate filers. The HP EFS/CG requires no replication for this high availability/ scalability. Want to know how I know ? ________________________________ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Maimon Oded Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 1:16 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Cluster file systems versus raw devices in Oracle RAC i know some companies that have RAC in site license. but let's change the discussion to something else. NFS of CFS? On 12/29/05, Kevin Closson < kevinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:kevinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: sometimes man bites dog :-) ________________________________ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of rjamya Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:40 PM To: tanel.poder.003@xxxxxxx Cc: ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Cluster file systems versus raw devices in Oracle RAC We are licensed for all rdbms products/options. We can use them whenever ... so that helps. Rjamya On 12/28/05, Tanel Põder < tanel.poder.003@xxxxxxx <mailto:tanel.poder.003@xxxxxxx> > wrote: Kevin is right, as much as I've seen none of the site licenses have had RAC included, most of my customers have even had to pay for partitioning extra (although discounted) price.