Re: Certifications don't count! (from a good test-taker)

Nuno,
I completely agree. In fact, I've never even had an OCM show up as a candidate for hire even though the qualifications for some positions have been in line with OCM-level knowledge. I do think, though, that certification is sometimes used as a differentiator when there are two candidates with similar experience and skill (at least on a resume), but only one has certification. I don't necessarily think that's fair and it may not result in the best candidate getting the interview, but when filtering a stack of resumes down to a few that get interviews, you have to apply some sort of criteria. 

Dan

Nuno Souto wrote:

Hmmm, given that there are around 200 there and it is
worldwide, I'd say basing interview selection criteria
on solely the producing of an OCM is a bit short-sighted...
Who knows, there might actually be good dbas out there
who don't give a fig about paying through their noses
for a "certification"?

Cheers
Nuno Souto
in (finally!) sunny Sydney, Australia
dbvision@xxxxxxxxxxxx


Dan Norris wrote,on my timestamp of 10/06/2008 1:44 AM:
For verification, you can just look online at http://www.oracle.com/technology/ocm/
If they aren't listed there, they may still be an OCM, but if they're on the page, they're an OCM since Oracle Ed maintains that page. As far as I know, OCM credentials have no expiration, though at some point, they're probably outdated and not much help. 

Dan

daniel koehne wrote:

A couple of years ago I got very frustrated when dealing with Oracle
Certifications. On both occasions I needed Oracle to verify that a
certification was valid (i.e. the person claiming to have a
certification actually had one) but Oracle went out of their way to
make verification difficult. When I needed to verify my certification
to a perspective employer I got some mail stating that verifying
certifications may take up to 2 weeks and the verification ended up
taking a 8 business days. The other time I wanted to verify someone's
claimed OCM and Oracle said that we needed permission from the person
we were interviewing to start the verification process and that
verification would take up to 2 weeks--I was suspicious about the
initial OCM claim so this person was filed in the circular filing
cabinet because of all the hassle.

I have also had trouble proving to Oracle certification folks that I
have taken the required OCP Oracle class.

With Microsoft, I believe that the person with the certification can
give you a number and you go to a Microsoft web site and are able to
verify any certification claims very quickly.

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