I agree with that. Chris Taylor Sr. Oracle DBA Ingram Barge Company Nashville, TN 37205 Office: 615-517-3355 Cell: 615-354-4799 Email: chris.taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ________________________________ From: Andrew Kerber [mailto:andrew.kerber@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:39 PM To: Taylor, Chris David Cc: David.Best@xxxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: CBO Bug - Tables with 0 rows Just to be accurate, thats not actually an Oracle bug. Oracle is working the way it is designed, its the PS implementation that has the problem. On Nov 29, 2007 2:16 PM, Taylor, Chris David < Chris.Taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Yes. We run into this often in PeopleSoft. Due to all the temp and work tables that app uses. They constantly have 0 rows. Then the App will insert rows and do joins on the tables that stats says have 0 rows. No fun. Here's a perfect example query: DELETE FROM PS_PO_RECON_WK1 WHERE PROCESS_INSTANCE = 999999 AND EXISTS ( SELECT 'X' FROM PS_PO_HDR B WHERE B.PO_STATUS = 'C' AND B.BUSINESS_UNIT = PS_PO_RECON_WK1.BUSINESS_UNIT AND B.PO_ID = PS_PO_RECON_WK1.PO_ID ) The PS_PO_RECON_WK1 table gets 290,000 rows inserted into it, the App does some stuff with the data and then runs this delete. The delete takes 1.5 hours to run. If I fix the stats on PS_PO_RECON_WK1, the delete takes approximately 25-30 seconds with a completely different execution plan. But you know what? That same app that does the delete does a TRUNCATE Table, and also reanalyzes the table, so the row_count gets set back to 0. I had to create a trigger that has an autonomous transaction inside it on inserts to reload stats from a STATTAB. Seems to be working ok for now. Chris Taylor Sr. Oracle DBA Ingram Barge Company Nashville, TN 37205 Office: 615-517-3355 Cell: 615-354-4799 Email: chris.taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of Best, David Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:00 PM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: CBO Bug - Tables with 0 rows Hey all, Has anyone heard of CBO bugs on tables with 0 rows or a low row count (<6)? Appparently sub-optimal plans were generated causing performance issues. The solution was to delete statistics on those tables. I was kind of surprised when I heard this so I searched on Metalink and can't find anything. Thanks -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- Andrew W. Kerber 'If at first you dont succeed, dont take up skydiving.'