Re: ACFS licensing

  • From: Ls Cheng <exriscer@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rajendra.pande@xxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 16:31:25 +0200

I think what it's trying is to avoid people develop home grown standby
databases when standard edition is used


On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 4:28 PM, <rajendra.pande@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> This bit is a bit vague – it does not clearly state if ACFS is covered in
> the local/networked file system.
>
> I would say that the other two links clearly clarify where the backupsets
> are covered and what ACFS allows.
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> What may be in doubt is what if the ORACLE license is standard and not EE.
>
> I would still say based on my reading the ACFS details are clear
>
> If you are still doubtful I suggest open a SR
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> What I mentioned is also covered for 12c -
> http://oradb-srv.wlv.ac.uk/E16655_01/license.121/e17614.pdf
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> Regards
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> - Raj Pande
>
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> *From:* Ls Cheng [mailto:exriscer@xxxxxxxxx]
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 24, 2014 10:21 AM
>
> *To:* Pande, Rajendra
> *Cc:* Freek D'Hooge; Oracle Mailinglist
> *Subject:* Re: ACFS licensing
>
>
>
> did y see this?
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> http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/license.112/e47877/editions.htm#DBLIC121
>
> It states this:
>
> ASM Cluster File System (ACFS) or a local OS file system must be used to
> store all non-database files. No Oracle-maintained copies of any
> non-database files can exist in any other locations, with the following
> exceptions:
>
> 1.      Customers who want to manually script maintenance of a standby
> database can create a second copy of their archive logs outside of Oracle
> ASM on a local file system only, designated by the 
> LOG_ARCHIVE_DEST_nparameter.
>
> 2.      *RMAN backups of files can reside on either a local or network
> mounted file system.*
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> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 2:57 PM, <rajendra.pande@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/license.112/e47877.pdf
>
>
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> Use of Oracle ADVM and Oracle ACFS's base functionality (i.e., excluding
> the
>
> below-listed advanced functionality) is free for all data types, including
>
> non-Oracle files. (*below is advanced functionality) *
>
>
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> Use of Oracle ACFS's advanced functionality requires the Cloud File System
>
> license. The advanced functionality consists of snapshots, replication,
> tagging,
>
> realm-based security, encryption, and auditing
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>
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> So I would say that RMAN should be covered
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> - Raj Pande
>
> UBS AG
>
>   Platform Services - Operations
>
>   Global Service Delivery (GSDM)
>
>   480 Washington Blvd. Jersey City, NJ 07310
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>   TEL# - External - +1 201 318 7597
>
>              Internal - 19 436 7597
>
>
>
> *From:* Ls Cheng [mailto:exriscer@xxxxxxxxx]
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 24, 2014 7:06 AM
> *To:* Pande, Rajendra
> *Cc:* Freek D'Hooge; Oracle Mailinglist
> *Subject:* Re: ACFS licensing
>
>
>
> Hi Rajendra
>
> It seems to me that when standard edition is used ACFS cannot store RMAN
> backups, what do yu think?
>
> Thanks
>
>
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> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:32 PM, <rajendra.pande@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> This may also be helpful… Confirms what was said earlier
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> http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/server.112/e18951/asmfilesystem.htm#OSTMG31000
>
>
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> Starting with Oracle Automatic Storage Management 11g Release 2
> (11.2.0.3), Oracle ACFS supports RMAN backups (BACKUPSET file type),
> archive logs (ARCHIVELOG file type), and Data Pump dumpsets (DUMPSET file
> type). Note that Oracle ACFS snapshots are not supported with these files.
>
>
>
> *From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Freek D'Hooge
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:45 AM
> *To:* exriscer@xxxxxxxxx
> *Cc:* Oracle Mailinglist
> *Subject:* Re: ACFS licensing
>
>
>
> The following is stated in the licensing guide:
> http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/license.112/e47877/options.htm#DBLIC2157
>
> *Oracle Cloud File System*
> *Oracle Cloud File System includes Oracle ASM Cluster File System (Oracle
> ACFS) and Oracle ASM Dynamic Volume Manager (Oracle ADVM).*
>
>    - *Use of Oracle ADVM and Oracle ACFS's base functionality (i.e.,
>    excluding the below-listed advanced functionality) is free for all data
>    types, including non-Oracle files.*
>    - *Use of Oracle ACFS's advanced functionality requires the Cloud File
>    System license. The advanced functionality consists of snapshots,
>    replication, tagging, realm-based security, encryption, and auditing.*
>
>
> *Oracle will provide support for ACFS/ADVM only if the server is running
> an Oracle product, which may include Oracle Linux or Oracle Solaris, that
> is also under Oracle support.*
>
>
> and the following is also stated in the RAC on standard edition section (
> http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/license.112/e47877/editions.htm#DBLIC121
> )
>
>
> *"ASM Cluster File System (ACFS) or a local OS file system must be used to
> store all non-database files"*
> .
>
> so, I would say no
>
> --
> Freek D'Hooge
> Exitas NV
> Senior Oracle DBA
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>
> On wo, 2014-04-23 at 15:21 +0200, Ls Cheng wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Does anyone knw if we need CloudFS (ACFS) license to store RMAN backups in
> 11gR2 RAC Standard Edition? (Not Enterprise)
>
> Thanks
>
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