I think what it's trying is to avoid people develop home grown standby databases when standard edition is used On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 4:28 PM, <rajendra.pande@xxxxxxx> wrote: > This bit is a bit vague – it does not clearly state if ACFS is covered in > the local/networked file system. > > I would say that the other two links clearly clarify where the backupsets > are covered and what ACFS allows. > > > > What may be in doubt is what if the ORACLE license is standard and not EE. > > I would still say based on my reading the ACFS details are clear > > If you are still doubtful I suggest open a SR > > > > What I mentioned is also covered for 12c - > http://oradb-srv.wlv.ac.uk/E16655_01/license.121/e17614.pdf > > > > > > Regards > > > > - Raj Pande > > UBS AG > > Platform Services - Operations > > Global Service Delivery (GSDM) > > 480 Washington Blvd. Jersey City, NJ 07310 > > TEL# - External - +1 201 318 7597 > > Internal - 19 436 7597 > > > > *From:* Ls Cheng [mailto:exriscer@xxxxxxxxx] > *Sent:* Thursday, April 24, 2014 10:21 AM > > *To:* Pande, Rajendra > *Cc:* Freek D'Hooge; Oracle Mailinglist > *Subject:* Re: ACFS licensing > > > > did y see this? > > > > > http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/license.112/e47877/editions.htm#DBLIC121 > > It states this: > > ASM Cluster File System (ACFS) or a local OS file system must be used to > store all non-database files. No Oracle-maintained copies of any > non-database files can exist in any other locations, with the following > exceptions: > > 1. Customers who want to manually script maintenance of a standby > database can create a second copy of their archive logs outside of Oracle > ASM on a local file system only, designated by the > LOG_ARCHIVE_DEST_nparameter. > > 2. *RMAN backups of files can reside on either a local or network > mounted file system.* > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 2:57 PM, <rajendra.pande@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/license.112/e47877.pdf > > > > Use of Oracle ADVM and Oracle ACFS's base functionality (i.e., excluding > the > > below-listed advanced functionality) is free for all data types, including > > non-Oracle files. (*below is advanced functionality) * > > > > Use of Oracle ACFS's advanced functionality requires the Cloud File System > > license. The advanced functionality consists of snapshots, replication, > tagging, > > realm-based security, encryption, and auditing > > > > So I would say that RMAN should be covered > > > > Regards > > > > - Raj Pande > > UBS AG > > Platform Services - Operations > > Global Service Delivery (GSDM) > > 480 Washington Blvd. Jersey City, NJ 07310 > > TEL# - External - +1 201 318 7597 > > Internal - 19 436 7597 > > > > *From:* Ls Cheng [mailto:exriscer@xxxxxxxxx] > *Sent:* Thursday, April 24, 2014 7:06 AM > *To:* Pande, Rajendra > *Cc:* Freek D'Hooge; Oracle Mailinglist > *Subject:* Re: ACFS licensing > > > > Hi Rajendra > > It seems to me that when standard edition is used ACFS cannot store RMAN > backups, what do yu think? > > Thanks > > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:32 PM, <rajendra.pande@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > This may also be helpful… Confirms what was said earlier > > > > > http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/server.112/e18951/asmfilesystem.htm#OSTMG31000 > > > > Starting with Oracle Automatic Storage Management 11g Release 2 > (11.2.0.3), Oracle ACFS supports RMAN backups (BACKUPSET file type), > archive logs (ARCHIVELOG file type), and Data Pump dumpsets (DUMPSET file > type). Note that Oracle ACFS snapshots are not supported with these files. > > > > *From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: > oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Freek D'Hooge > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:45 AM > *To:* exriscer@xxxxxxxxx > *Cc:* Oracle Mailinglist > *Subject:* Re: ACFS licensing > > > > The following is stated in the licensing guide: > http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/license.112/e47877/options.htm#DBLIC2157 > > *Oracle Cloud File System* > *Oracle Cloud File System includes Oracle ASM Cluster File System (Oracle > ACFS) and Oracle ASM Dynamic Volume Manager (Oracle ADVM).* > > - *Use of Oracle ADVM and Oracle ACFS's base functionality (i.e., > excluding the below-listed advanced functionality) is free for all data > types, including non-Oracle files.* > - *Use of Oracle ACFS's advanced functionality requires the Cloud File > System license. The advanced functionality consists of snapshots, > replication, tagging, realm-based security, encryption, and auditing.* > > > *Oracle will provide support for ACFS/ADVM only if the server is running > an Oracle product, which may include Oracle Linux or Oracle Solaris, that > is also under Oracle support.* > > > and the following is also stated in the RAC on standard edition section ( > http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/license.112/e47877/editions.htm#DBLIC121 > ) > > > *"ASM Cluster File System (ACFS) or a local OS file system must be used to > store all non-database files"* > . > > so, I would say no > > -- > Freek D'Hooge > Exitas NV > Senior Oracle DBA > email: freek.dhooge@xxxxxxxxx > tel +32(03) 443 12 38 > http://www.exitas.be > > On wo, 2014-04-23 at 15:21 +0200, Ls Cheng wrote: > > Hi all > > Does anyone knw if we need CloudFS (ACFS) license to store RMAN backups in > 11gR2 RAC Standard Edition? 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