This bit is a bit vague – it does not clearly state if ACFS is covered in the local/networked file system. I would say that the other two links clearly clarify where the backupsets are covered and what ACFS allows. What may be in doubt is what if the ORACLE license is standard and not EE. I would still say based on my reading the ACFS details are clear If you are still doubtful I suggest open a SR What I mentioned is also covered for 12c - http://oradb-srv.wlv.ac.uk/E16655_01/license.121/e17614.pdf Regards - Raj Pande UBS AG Platform Services - Operations Global Service Delivery (GSDM) 480 Washington Blvd. Jersey City, NJ 07310 TEL# - External - +1 201 318 7597 Internal - 19 436 7597 From: Ls Cheng [mailto:exriscer@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 10:21 AM To: Pande, Rajendra Cc: Freek D'Hooge; Oracle Mailinglist Subject: Re: ACFS licensing did y see this? http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/license.112/e47877/editions.htm#DBLIC121 It states this: ASM Cluster File System (ACFS) or a local OS file system must be used to store all non-database files. No Oracle-maintained copies of any non-database files can exist in any other locations, with the following exceptions: 1. Customers who want to manually script maintenance of a standby database can create a second copy of their archive logs outside of Oracle ASM on a local file system only, designated by the LOG_ARCHIVE_DEST_n parameter. 2. RMAN backups of files can reside on either a local or network mounted file system. On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 2:57 PM, <rajendra.pande@xxxxxxx> wrote: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/license.112/e47877.pdf Use of Oracle ADVM and Oracle ACFS's base functionality (i.e., excluding the below-listed advanced functionality) is free for all data types, including non-Oracle files. (below is advanced functionality) Use of Oracle ACFS's advanced functionality requires the Cloud File System license. The advanced functionality consists of snapshots, replication, tagging, realm-based security, encryption, and auditing So I would say that RMAN should be covered Regards - Raj Pande UBS AG Platform Services - Operations Global Service Delivery (GSDM) 480 Washington Blvd. Jersey City, NJ 07310 TEL# - External - +1 201 318 7597 <tel:%2B1%20201%20318%207597> Internal - 19 436 7597 From: Ls Cheng [mailto:exriscer@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 7:06 AM To: Pande, Rajendra Cc: Freek D'Hooge; Oracle Mailinglist Subject: Re: ACFS licensing Hi Rajendra It seems to me that when standard edition is used ACFS cannot store RMAN backups, what do yu think? Thanks On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:32 PM, <rajendra.pande@xxxxxxx> wrote: This may also be helpful… Confirms what was said earlier http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/server.112/e18951/asmfilesystem.htm#OSTMG31000 Starting with Oracle Automatic Storage Management 11g Release 2 (11.2.0.3), Oracle ACFS supports RMAN backups (BACKUPSET file type), archive logs (ARCHIVELOG file type), and Data Pump dumpsets (DUMPSET file type). Note that Oracle ACFS snapshots are not supported with these files. From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Freek D'Hooge Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:45 AM To: exriscer@xxxxxxxxx Cc: Oracle Mailinglist Subject: Re: ACFS licensing The following is stated in the licensing guide: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/license.112/e47877/options.htm#DBLIC2157 Oracle Cloud File System Oracle Cloud File System includes Oracle ASM Cluster File System (Oracle ACFS) and Oracle ASM Dynamic Volume Manager (Oracle ADVM). * Use of Oracle ADVM and Oracle ACFS's base functionality (i.e., excluding the below-listed advanced functionality) is free for all data types, including non-Oracle files. * Use of Oracle ACFS's advanced functionality requires the Cloud File System license. The advanced functionality consists of snapshots, replication, tagging, realm-based security, encryption, and auditing. Oracle will provide support for ACFS/ADVM only if the server is running an Oracle product, which may include Oracle Linux or Oracle Solaris, that is also under Oracle support. and the following is also stated in the RAC on standard edition section (http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/license.112/e47877/editions.htm#DBLIC121) "ASM Cluster File System (ACFS) or a local OS file system must be used to store all non-database files" . so, I would say no -- Freek D'Hooge Exitas NV Senior Oracle DBA email: freek.dhooge@xxxxxxxxx tel +32(03) 443 12 38 <tel:%2B32%2803%29%20443%2012%2038> http://www.exitas.be <http://www.exitas.be/> On wo, 2014-04-23 at 15:21 +0200, Ls Cheng wrote: Hi all Does anyone knw if we need CloudFS (ACFS) license to store RMAN backups in 11gR2 RAC Standard Edition? (Not Enterprise) Thanks Please visit our website at http://financialservicesinc.ubs.com/wealth/E-maildisclaimer.html for important disclosures and information about our e-mail policies. 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