We are discussing it also. The note seems to say that the OCR and Votedisk are both going to be supported within ASM. I will really be interested to see if that is actually the case. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Bradd Piontek <piontekdd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > is it a long way out? I was having the discussion with a team mate this > morning after I read the article on metalink. If it is such a small thing, > why announce it so far out? Is Oracle prepping customers well in advance of > the desupport (couldn't find any other 12g references on a quick metalink > search) to give them time to prepare for this? > > Is 11gR2 going to be announced at OOW this year? > > Bradd Piontek > Oracle Blog: http://piontekdd.blogspot.com > Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/piontekdd > > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:24 PM, jason arneil <jason.arneil@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > >> Oh, I don't know about pushing OCFS/OCFS2, I think ASM is where the big >> push from oracle is. >> >> You are right, about this chicken and egg syndrome, but 12g is a LONG way >> out. >> >> We are still waiting 11gR2, right? >> >> jason. >> >> -- >> http://jarneil.wordpress.com >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Bradd Piontek <piontekdd@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >> >>> I would think storing the OCR and voting disks in ASM would be an issue, >>> as ASM is just another cluster resource and is generally brought up by ASM. >>> My guess is they'll be pushing the use of OCFS/OCFS2 a bit more. >>> >>> Bradd Piontek >>> Oracle Blog: http://piontekdd.blogspot.com >>> Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/piontekdd >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Matthew Zito <mzito@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> We were discussing this over here, and the big question we came up >>>> with is: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Does this mean that simply raw devices a la old school Red Hat >>>> (/dev/raw/raw1) are desupported, or that all character/non-buffered IO >>>> devices are desupported (a la /dev/rdsk/c0t0d0s2 or /dev/sda2 with >>>> O_DIRECT)?" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If the former, it's a non-issue for most environments, if it's the >>>> latter, it opens up a host of questions around what will be supported. >>>> Effectively, it requires that people have a clustered filesystem to use, or >>>> somehow Oracle jobbies up ASM such that you can put OCR and voting >>>> internally and making ASM a dependency for CRS to run. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Matt >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: >>>> oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *dba1 mcc >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:30 PM >>>> *To:* oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; hkchital@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> *Subject:* Re: 12G Desupport for Raw Devices >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Redhat RHEL 6 will also NOT support raw device. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On *Thu, 8/7/08, Hemant K Chitale <hkchital@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>* wrote: >>>> >>>> From: Hemant K Chitale <hkchital@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Subject: 12G Desupport for Raw Devices >>>> To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 11:02 AM >>>> >>>> For those using Raw Devices (wether for Redo Logs in non-RAC or for >>>> >>>> Database Files as well in RAC), >>>> >>>> see MetaLink Note#578455.1 "Announcement of De-Support of RAW >>>> >>>> devices in Release 12G " >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hemant K Chitale >>>> http://hemantoracledba.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "A 'No' uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a >>>> >>>> 'Yes' >>>> >>>> merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble." >>>> >>>> Mohandas Gandhi >>>> >>>> Quotes >>>> >>>> : http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mohandas_gandhi.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > -- Andrew W. Kerber 'If at first you dont succeed, dont take up skydiving.'