Block devices are supported from 10.2.0.2 - at least in Linux. We have 10.2.0.4 on ASM with block devices - works without any problem so far. ________________________________ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Bobak, Mark Sent: Fri 8/8/2008 6:55 PM To: Bobak, Mark; greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ORACLE-L Freelists Subject: RE: 12G Desupport for Raw Devices And I forgot the second part of my posting.....so, as people move from RAW to ASM, they're still going to use RAW volumes to allocate storage to ASM, right? Seems to me it would be pretty silly to put filesystems on all your storage, just so you can hand it over to ASM. So, seems to me, Oracle will still deal w/ raw, albeit perhaps only through the ASM path....? -Mark -- Mark J. Bobak Senior Database Administrator, System & Product Technologies ProQuest 789 E. Eisenhower, Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 +1.734.997.4059 or +1.800.521.0600 x 4059 mark.bobak@xxxxxxxxxxxx www.proquest.com www.csa.com ProQuest...Start here. -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bobak, Mark Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:50 AM To: greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ORACLE-L Freelists Subject: RE: 12G Desupport for Raw Devices We were historically a shop that used raw, almost everywhere, going back to at least 7.0 days. We have begun moving towards ASM, as we move to 10g/11g, but we still have much raw, mostly on 9iR2 databases, and even a couple of 8.1.7 stragglers..... -Mark -- Mark J. Bobak Senior Database Administrator, System & Product Technologies ProQuest 789 E. Eisenhower, Parkway, P.O. Box 1346 Ann Arbor MI 48106-1346 +1.734.997.4059 or +1.800.521.0600 x 4059 mark.bobak@xxxxxxxxxxxx www.proquest.com www.csa.com ProQuest...Start here. -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Rahn Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:14 AM To: ORACLE-L Freelists Subject: Re: 12G Desupport for Raw Devices Generally before something is deprecated, an alternative is introduced. My guess is that 11gR2 will provide something. Do many people use raw devices for data files? e.g. data file is actually a raw volume Most of the customers that I have worked with have moved from raw to ASM. -- Regards, Greg Rahn http://structureddata.org <http://structureddata.org/> -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the External Email Security System. ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This e-mail message and any attachments to it are for the sole use of the intended recipients and may contain confidential and privileged information. This e-mail message and any attachments are the property of Yusuf A. Alghanim & Sons w.l.l. or any of its subsidiaries or affiliates (?Alghanim Industries?). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution of this e-mail message or its attachments is prohibited. Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of Alghanim Industries. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message and any attachments. ______________________________________________________________________ -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l