Re: 10g shutdown (WAS Oracle experts are disgusted...)

Are you running EM10g or Grid control?  We have seen situations where  
EM10g has said a database is down (though it is really up), and when  
you tell EM10g to bring the database up, it instead logs in and shuts  
it down (at least the GUI is still correct in that the instance is  
down).

Thanks,
Matt

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On Dec 3, 2004, at 9:51 AM, <Paula_Stankus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Guys,
>
> Yesterday my 10G database shutdown.  There were no errors - no  
> ORA-07...
> ORA-0600 - nothing, no trace the alert log said shutdown normal.  This
> was on Solaris 2.9.  I swear the server didn't shutdown and there are 2
> admins. And both of us were doing something and not shutting down the
> database.
>
> Help?=20
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Post, Ethan
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 2:21 PM
> To: DGoulet@xxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Oracle experts are disgusted with SQL Server User Group
>
> Not sure I agree, I do think that the "bait" and "hook" technique that
> SSWUG is using is deceptive.  However, if I wanted to publish a
> newsletter that is simply a set of links and what I think about them  
> and
> charge people for that then I should be free to do that.  It takes time
> and effort to sift through good material and bad material as well as
> simply find new/good material on the web.  This time and effort is  
> legit
> and people should be able to charge for this.  I can't publish the
> materials in the newsletter or host the materials but linking should be
> fine.  In this sense SSWUG is just acting as a glorified search engine.
>
> If I want to link to an article from a blog/newsletter whatever, it is
> just not feasible that everyone go around and ask the author for
> permission.  I think there are some legal battles pertaining to this
> stuff currently going on.  I think people have been able to stop people
> from linking, not sure.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Goulet, Dick
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:10 PM
> To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Oracle experts are disgusted with SQL Server User Group
>
>  Well, I'll agree with Don.  SSWUG would appear to have crossed a
> moral/ethical line selling pointers to data that can otherwise be
> obtained for free & making money off what others have placed in the
> public domain.  I'm no lawyer so I won't comment of the legal aspects.
> I think they should have at least asked the authors for permission
> first.  At least Don has not placed his scripts in the public domain so
> he has a right to sell them.  Unless you want to do the research &
> stitching yourself, which I believe if three fourths of the fun.
>
>
> Dick Goulet
> Senior Oracle DBA
> Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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