RE: offtopic: Cleared 11i install patch ,maintain applications beta exam.

Thank you Jurijs for the clear reply I guess I will pass on the wf
expert certification since I am an apps dba and to be honest I did not
used it (I just configured the mailer). 
So I can say now congratulations  for both the expert certificate and
for the new coming baby ;-)

Take care
Fadi


-----Original Message-----
From: ora-apps-dba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ora-apps-dba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jurijs
Velikanovs
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:14 AM
To: ora-apps-dba@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: offtopic: Cleared 11i install patch ,maintain applications
beta exam.

Hi Fadi,

1Z0-231 Implement Oracle Workflow 11i - exam is more Development
focused.
I would say that 70% of questions related to WF development process
that is not directly related to Apps DBA duties.
Questions like which Message Attribute properties you need to set in
order to .... is quite typical example.
Or what results (syntax) can has Notification activity (chose four) -
like questions are common one.
Part of the questions related to navigations from Web pages. Which
page you use in order to ....

There were 10-20% of questions related to Apps DBA duties.

After I went through questions first time during exam I answered ~30
questions from 72 ;(
And end of the exam I wasn't really sure if I passed it.

I would say that the best person for this exam is WF Developer or
Implementation consultant who have work on WF coding process for 1-2
years.

For preparation I have used Self-training CD set ordered from Oracle
Education (500$).

PS Sorry for late response we with my wife are preparing for second
Baby born at the moment.


On 4/16/07, Fadi Hasweh <fhasweh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Can any one please share what type of questions you reciveved in your
> workflow/sysadmin qusitons since I am really thinking of taking both
> exams with the coming weeks, as you may all know oracle released a new
> credentials for them, so I am welling to do the workflow because I
have
> a little experience on it
>
> Check this out
>
http://oracle-magic.blogspot.com/2007/04/new-credentials-for-oracle-appl
> ications.html
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ora-apps-dba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ora-apps-dba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kishore Adikar
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:14 AM
> To: ora-apps-dba@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: offtopic: Cleared 11i install patch ,maintain
applications
> beta exam.
>
> Guys,
>
> I am also pleased to inform that I have cleared "Oracle 11i Install,
> Patch and Maintain Applications1Z0-233". Its great feeling and
> altogether a different confidence to be called a "Oracle 11i
> Applications Database Administrator Certified Professional" since I am
> already a Oracle 10g OCP.
>
> As per new rules, if you are Oracle 9i OCP or 10g OCP and have cleared
> either IZO-233 or IZO-232 then you Oracle 11i Apps Certified.
>
>
> Regarding preparation most of the questions were from the following 4
> pdfs
> 1> 11i Concepts(B19295-01)
> 2> r11510ins (Part No. B19296-01)
> 3> 11iadproc (B19299-01)
> 4> 11iadutil(B19300-01)
>
> The best was 11iadproc.pdf which has live scenarios with solutions.
>
> Regards,
> A.Kishore
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ora-apps-dba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ora-apps-dba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Fadi Hasweh
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 7:46 PM
> To: ora-apps-dba@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: offtopic: Cleared 11i install patch ,maintain
applications
> beta exam.
>
>
> congratulations  to both of you, can you please Jurijs share what kind
> of qusitons you recived in the workflow? What should I study for
> workflow I am intresed in it and any thing will be helpful
>
> fadi
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ora-apps-dba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ora-apps-dba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jurijs
> Velikanovs
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:50 AM
> To: ora-apps-dba@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: offtopic: Cleared 11i install patch ,maintain
applications
> beta exam.
>
> Hi Naim,
>
> Please accept my congratulations! Well done ;)
>
> I don't think your post is complicity off topic.
> "Oracle 11i Install, Patch and Maintain Applications" exam is directly
> related to this list.
>
> Just wonder how difficult is this exam (I am planning to pass it at
> the beginning of the June)?
> Would you recommend to get prepared to it or it would be ok to go if
> person have 3-5 years experience working as Apps DBA?
> I am asking because there are a lot of theoretical questions about
> features that you do not use in your real live in some OCP exams. Some
> exams are more or less close to the real live.
> Just wonder what is your impression about this particular one?
> How much time you would recommend to dedicate for preparation and
> reading through Education materials?
>
> I have passed "1Z0-231 Implement Oracle Workflow 11i" this week
> (Passing score 59%, My score 67%).
> My impression is that 80% of information of Training and Exam is
> intended for Developers who is actively working on WF implementation.
> However 20% of the information was very useful for me in order to
> understand concept behind the product (What creator has been thinking
> about by the time he designed all those agents, queues and web pages
> ;).
> I believe that Oracle has made the right decision by excluding this
> exam from Oracle Apps DBA certification track.
>
> PS Thank you for good words about the list.
>
> Jurijs
>
> On 4/14/07, Na'eem <naim.deen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hi Guys
> > Today atlast oracle announced 11i OCP DBA track results.
> > Have passed Oracle 11i Install, Patch and Maintain Applications exam
.
> > Many thanks to  all the guys here in this groups and particularly
> Jurjis for
> > his valuable information on many topics.
> >
> > Cheers !!!
> > Regards
> > Naim
>
>
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