Re: Failover using cloning and virtual host

  • From: "Jurijs Velikanovs" <j.velikanovs@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ora-apps-dba@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:59:18 +0300

Hi,

Honestly speaking I didn't setup Apps processes in Cold Cluster
configuration (Virtual Host) so my comments in that case are purely
theoretical. It sounds like Hananto have more experience.

HA for Apps parts in most of my projects has been ensured by backup &
recovery strategy for really small systems and it doesn't make sense
to make more expensive solutions in that case or using Load Balances
(Web, Forms) & PCP (Concurrent Processing) for enterprise systems.

Cold Clusters however is kind of trade off between to mentioned in above.

Jurijs

On 6/25/07, Hananto Wicaksono <hananto.wicaksono@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Jurijs,

Thanks for the information. That is just in case if some patches or maybe
autoconfig can overwrite the TNS on Apps Tier, but I am also not sure. I
think it is good also to put our customization on IFILE. :)

Joseph,
From my experience, when configure the failover as described, make sure that
ICM is running using physical node name and other concurrent managers are
running on virtual node name. ICM cannot run when using virtual hostname, so
leave it since it will be automatically detect on which node name it is
actually running. But for other concurrent managers must refer to virtual
hostname so it can failover. As Jurijs said, check also the FND_NODES. It
must contains all the physical nodes name as well as virtual hostname.

CMIIW, you are not using PCP, right ? Just running single node but with
failover capability to standby server (active-pasive). And Yes, always refer
to the virtual hostname when setting the xml file. None of the parameter
refer to the persistent IP/hostname (physical).

Cheers,

Hananto.

On 6/25/07, Joseph Amalraj <joseph@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The CM host in the <SID>_hostname.xml file is the name of the Virtual
host.
>
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ora-apps-dba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ora-apps-dba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jurijs Velikanovs
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 6:59 AM
> To: ora-apps-dba@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Failover using cloning and virtual host
>
> Joseph,
>
> It sounds like your Apps configuration is not 100% running on Virtual
host.
> Your CM-s are running on physical host, is it right?
>
> If you might want to play with Parallel Concurrent Processing feature
> which allow you to run CM-s on several hosts at the same time.
> Or if you would like to keep those running on physical host then just
> before running postclone actions you need to execute
> fnd_conc_clone.setup_clean; procedure in order to clean old records in
> FND_NODES table. Postclone calls autoconfig which adds proper hostname
> to that table.
>
> If you CM-s have been interrupted in abort mode (shutting down a node
> for example) then you might considering to run cmclean.sql (available
> on Mentalink just enter script name in the search field) script just
> before starting up CM-s in the target node.
>
> Jurijs
>
>
> On 6/22/07, Joseph Amalraj <joseph@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > We have a EBS single node environment. This uses same virtual node for
all
> > services. A failover environment is currently configured so that the
> virtual
> > node (and its ip address) fails over to the standby site. We ran
preclone
> > and rapid clone for the failover. All services came up except for
> concurrent
> > manager processes. I guess I should have registered the physical host
name
> > through OAM as a post clone step.
> >
> > Please give me your input how this should be configured.
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Joseph Amalraj
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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>




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