[optimal] Re: From Denice SF
- From: Ethan Priel <prieleye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:41:20 +0200
All,
We do dozens and dozens of exams a day.
Have not found any reason to use more than 12 ( max !) ART averaging.
The Volume Scan is set to 9 ART.
Try it, you will like it.
Ethan
From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Eric Kegley
Sent: 17 February, 2012 06:32
To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optimal] Re: From Denice SF
Denice,
I have personally been involved in about 60 clinical trials over the last 9-10
years. Naturally we have only been using SD-OCT in trials for about the last
2-3 years. We have never had a protocol that requires 100 ART except one and
that was for RNFL. Whenever got our Spectralis (in 2008 I think), we did a
very non-scientific evaluation of the best combination of ART versus "face
time". We found that we got good detail with 9 ART. It just so happens that
when we did our first Spectralis study with Duke, they chose 9 ART for the 49
line volume scan- I know this isn't a direct correlation with the radial lines
you are doing but could help justify the use of fewer ART for you. I think we
have one current trial that uses 6 line radial scans and I believe we are using
16 ART. (which IMHO is plenty).
EK
Eric Kegley, CRA, COA
Retina Consultants of Houston
6560 Fannin St., #750
Houston, TX 77030
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On Feb 16, 2012 6:08 PM, CPMC Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center
<cpmceyelab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Fellow Optimalers
I have spoken with the study coordinators again today because my poor patient
could not hold his fixation for the 100 ART per 6 spoke Radial scans.
They are asking me for collaboration that I am not crazy, that this protocol is
excessive. If you have an opinion, please weigh in. I will forward, as
requested, the consensus.
Denice
Denice Barsness, CRA, COMT, ROUB, CDOS, FOPS
Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center
CPMC Department of Ophthalmology
2100 Webster Street Suite 212
San Francisco CA 94115
(415) 600-3937 FAX (415) 600-6563
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From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Carlton, Chris [VA]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:26 AM
To: 'optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [optimal] Re: From Denice SF
Is this not a safety issue? The timeout is for a reason. I believe there are
guidelines on how much exposure from a laser on a single area of the retina.
100 ART is ridiculous. These people apparently no little about the Spectralis.
I rarely let ART build too high as you get diminishing returns. Many times the
images build too much filling in pathology and blurring artifacts in the
vitreous.
Many of the study protocols are becoming ridiculous.
There seems to be a need for central certification process that serves all
reading centers.
Chris Carlton
Photographer
VCH/UBC Eye Care Center
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From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Eric Kegley
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 4:41 PM
To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optimal] Re: From Denice SF
Denice,
You could always create a new patient with dummy information, scan the subject,
then bring up the real record and change the data to the correct data. That is
unless he already has a study record and you must down "followup" scans.
EK
Eric Kegley, CRA, COA
Director of Ophthalmic Imaging
Retina Consultants of Houston
6560 Fannin St., #750
Houston, TX 77030
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On Feb 9, 2012 6:23 PM, Cunningham, Denise (NIH/NEI) [E]
<CunninghamD@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Please SHARE your answer! We encounter the same problems and need a solution.
From: CPMC Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center [mailto:cpmceyelab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 07:18 PM
To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [optimal] From Denice SF
Got my answer! Gotta love Optimal.
Denice Barsness, CRA, COMT, ROUB, CDOS, FOPS
Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center
CPMC Department of Ophthalmology
2100 Webster Street Suite 212
San Francisco CA 94115
(415) 600-3937 FAX (415) 600-6563
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