Charles, I could use one of those too. The one I have with the Optacon getting a new retina is pretty stretched. Can I apply a little heat from a hair dryer or warm water and tighten the holder up a little as I have done with the ear pieces "or whatever you call 'em) for sunglasses? =20 By the way, I hadn't intended my last reply to go to the list. =20 Pam To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject.