[opendtv] Re: Why Europe should choose 720P for HDTV
- From: Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:07:21 -0500
Mark -
I personally doubt it. But I made that most misunderstood comment to
Craig in a discussion of blue laser DVD using advanced codecs. I was
actually thinking of something like 4:4:4 AVC or VC1 at 25-30 mbps which
could hopefully do it quite well, especially for 24fps movies. (If those
are even going to support 4:4:4 encoding).
- Tom
Mark Aitken wrote:
> I am not sure that one could get reasonable quality HD MPEG video for
> 1080p 4:4:4 inside an ATSC OTA (with trellis coding) bitstream (~18Mb/s
> video). Not sure of any MPEG coding system that could do that...comments
> anyone?
> Tom Barry wrote:
>
>
>>As that's two posts correcting me now I guess I better clarify my
>>sloppiness. The "it" that I was claiming we couldn't currently see was
>>the full glory of 4:4:4 1080p and not referring to seeing the difference
>>between the lower resolutions bandied about.
>>
>>- Tom
>>
>>John Shutt wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>3 out of 4 programs on PBS's HD schedule are actually widescreen SD
>>>upconverted to 1080i. The difference is very noticeable.
>>>
>>>John Shutt
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Doug McDonald" <mcdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Just because we couldn't see it on almost all current displays (1080i or
>>>>>720p fixed) doesn't mean we shouldn't do it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That last is false ... it CAN be easily seen, and noticed,
>>>>as it is actually AVAILABLE TODAY, almost every day. It
>>>>is visible on Fox OTA TV. It is clearly inferior to true HD 720p.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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