[opendtv] Re: Visit at Best Buy

I think you're missing something on the way to making a point.  Broadcasters
tend to advertise their assets and what they're paid to advertise.  In this
context, "assets" are things you can watch.  In digital, you can't watch
ANYTHING on rf channel XX; however you can watch things on 23-1, 23-2, 23-0,
etc.  It's not (at least until analog sunsets) "tune into channel 23 to
watch digitally", it's "tune into 23-1 and watch Frasier at 9:00 p.m."

There will be a one-time reason to advertise RF channels when analog
sunsets. It will probably be something like "Watch all the local and CBS
programming you've become accustomed to on channel 5 AND A WHOLE LOT MORE on
digital channel 32.  Cable viewers: contact your cable company for the
availability of our expanded digital services."

Alas, that won't deal with everything, because by their very nature, the
cable people will lie to viewers about what is offered and what they offer,
and they will try to divert consumers interested in free services to
expensive cable ones, but that's just the nature of the beast; it's profits
into the future as people forget what they have ordered and what it costs.

John (who has actually had cable companies do these practices against him)
Willkie


-----Original Message-----
From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Tom Barry
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 8:18 PM
To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [opendtv] Re: Visit at Best Buy


You would also think that promoting a logical channel also allows things
like advertising a certain show will be on 21-2, making the point about
sub-channels.

- Tom
John Willkie wrote:

> Promoting the digital PTC is a stupid idea: it will only cause confusion.
> Most stations will never use their DTV ptc after transition, and many
> stations do not TODAY know what their ultimate channel will be (for
example,
> when current and DTV channels are non-core.)  Promoting RF channels is a
> significant investment.  Stations are loathe to change callsigns, and
avoid
> changing RF.  Advertising confusing channel numbers don't make sense.
>
> Besides -- aside from RF issues like antenna choice; RF channels are
passe.
> Virtual (major/minor or one-value) is the future.
>
> John Willkie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John Shutt
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 8:02 AM
> To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: Visit at Best Buy
>
>
> I stand corrected on the Samsung T-151.  You can enter numbers into the
box
> directly.  However, once so added, it only displays the virtual channel
> number (23-1 in our case), and once entered it doesn't display the
physical
> channel again.
>
> However, our Samsung will not allow you to enter a physical channel number
> into the channel memory if the station is not on the air or otherwise not
> decodable.  So if I know for a fact that there is a Digital Channel 55,
but
> they are not on the air, I cannot program the number for future use.  I
must
> wait for the station to come on the air (or turn my antenna towards the
> station).
>
> Only our Videotek professional receiver always displays both the virtual
> channel number and the physical channel number.
>
> So I maintain that for all practical purposes, the physical channel number
> does not need to be constantly "promoted." to the general public, and even
> more so now with the FCC PSIP mandate that requires us to identify our
> digital station by our analog channel number, unless a waiver is granted.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John Shutt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug McDonald" <mcdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>>I own two ... a Samsung T-151 and a Motorola box whose name
>>I dso not know.
>>
>>Both allow manual entry of stations. The Samsung is somewhat
>>limited, in that if you first enter a station, say physical
>>50, that maps to 25, you cannot enter "25" and get a digital
>>that is physical 25, even if in fact one exists and is useable,
>>because it just tunes in the digital physical 50 that maps to 25.
>>This is a bug.
>
>
>
>
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