Tom Barry wrote: > It does not matter if something in the chain is still causing you > to pay royalties for each item. You pay the duplicate $24-40 > royalties for those items in your TV. You don't get a two (or > more)for one discount for all the other places you have paid the > same royalties. Maybe you should, but you don't. > > Though I'm otherwise not really against having tuners in displays, > even though I mostly don't use mine. So let's look at the alternatives. The alternatives, simplified here because obviously there are a zillion, are to put the "tuners" in the displays, or force everyone to ALWAYS have to deal with a separate STB, or even more complex solution. The separate STB pays the same royalties as the built-in tuner, plus you pay for the separate power supply, the controls, the remote, packaging, shipping, instructions, etc., etc., all duplicated costs. Note: the "tuner in display" alternative includes tru2way, for example. So it's not just for OTA reception. There is absolutely no way one can categorically claim that forcing the separate STB model on everyone ends up saving money. If the STB has to be rented from an MVPD, we don't even need to discuss this. If the STB is bought and owned outright, it will inevitably cost more than having the "tuner" built in. Even if the standard changes eventually, and you need to buy that STB after all (until you buy a new display), over the long haul, you've saved money. The alternative was that you bought the display AND the STB originally, then bought a new STB when the standard changed. Adding up the costs over the years, you come out with higher costs if you always needed that separate STB. Okay, so let's say that you do prefer to rent the STB from the cable company anyway. Fine, that's your choice. If you choose to pay rent each month, does this make it okay to force the more expensive model on everyone else? Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.