I point out that Thomson was at best a bit player in the development of ATSC DTV system. Their bite must come from other sources. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Birkmaier" <craig@xxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 8:12 AM Subject: [opendtv] Re: US DTV Patent Royalties Range From $24 to $40 > At 4:46 PM -0400 6/5/09, Manfredi, Albert E wrote: > > > >So how much of this $24.10 is truly about ATSC? > > Essentially all of it, except for the small number of TVs that are > being sold and used with cable cards. The vast majority of sets are > connected to cable/DBS boxes, thus the integrated tuners are not even > used, and are only there because of the government ATSC tuner > mandate. Unfortunately. cable/DBS subscribes pay some of the > royalties twice. > > > > Also, what would H.264 > >add to the total? > > Nothing. There is no license fee for decoder hardware as used in a TV > or STB. Instead the content provider pays a relatively small fee to > allow them to deliver H.264 content in the clear. > > There is a small fee for encoders/decoders that are incorporated > either into the hardware or software of a personal computer. The > first 100,000 units are free (to protect small companies) then it's > 20 cents up to 5 million units and 10 cents after five million up to > a preset total cap that increases in the out years. > > Essentially, MPEG-LA woke up on H.264 and kept the pricing very reasonable. > > here is the text for the broadcast license provisions from: > > http://www.mpegla.com/avc/AVC_TermsSummary.pdf > > "For (b) (2) where remuneration is from other sources, in the case of > free television > (television broadcasting which is sent by an over-the-air, satellite > and/or cable > Transmission, and which is not paid for by an End User), the licensee > (broadcaster which > is identified as providing free television AVC video) may pay > (beginning January 1, > 2006) according to one of two royalty options: (i) a one-time payment > of $2,500 per AVC > transmission encoder (applies to each AVC encoder which is used by or > on behalf of a > Licensee in transmitting AVC video to the End User) or (ii) annual > fee per Broadcast > Market12 starting at $2,500 per calendar year per Broadcast Markets > of at least 100,000 > but no more than 499,999 television households, $5,000 per calendar > year per Broadcast > Market which includes at least 500,000 but no more than 999,999 > television households, > and $10,000 per calendar year per Broadcast Market which includes > 1,000,000 or more > television households.13 > > Regards > Craig > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.