At 12:10 PM -0800 4/1/04, jmwillkie@xxxxxxx wrote: >I'd characterize that as an intemperate remark. It sounds to me that most >of the people who didn't want their in-boxes swamped opted to leave the list >instead of setting up the new list for digest mode. Watch it BOY. You might get unsubscribed along with the rest of these folks. And the new list has the ability to block certain addresses from re-subscribing... ;-) There were a multitude of sins at work here. Many of these folks were in a mode that allowed them to view the list online without receiving messages. Unfortunately there was way to determine this via the Topica list management software. And there was no way to know which addresses were in the black hole. > >Also, some people who thought they were done with the list saw it reappear >in their inboxes. Either way, it wasn't THEIR fault. Yup. Surprise, surprise! The intemperate remark came after dealing with one gentleman in Philadelphia who was particularly upset. He claimed he had never subscribed to Topica, then proceeded to send me 15 e-mails saying: Take me off the list! Take EVERYONE off JERK. After a few e-mail exchanges we managed to clear the air and settle down. He only wanted to read Mark's Monday memos. But this whole affair is very telling in terms of what has happened to the Internet and e-mail in particular during the years that the list was hosted at Topica. When I first started using e-mail back in 1992 - to work on the SMPTE Task Force Report on Digital Image Architecture, e-mail was like unbelievable magic. People all over the world working together to create something nearly in real time. I used to sit in the family room reading e-mail while the rest of the family was watching TV. Occasionally would have emotional outbursts when reading messages. E-mail was a new experience with vast potential. Then the web happened and the Internet experience was enhanced again. Then the entrenched media started to see the ways in which the Internet could disrupt their exclusive franchises and disintermediate their ability to control media commerce. Things have been going downhill ever since. What I find really interesting in all of this is how the powerful interests are using the legal system, legislation and regulation to control their destiny. We are now looking at the very real possibility that virtually everything that touches media bits will be regulated. We are looking at consumers spending billions of dollars to protect these bits so that the entrenched interest can be propped up. Yet we cannot come up with a law or a technology to restore some sanity to e-mail. I can fully understand why some people were upset when I moved the list. Rather than anticipating "You've Got Mail," we now approach our computers with apprehension. How many hours do each of us now spend filtering through the garbage to find the few messages that we want? My how times have changed! Regards Craig ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.