At 11:24 AM -0800 11/9/05, dan.grimes@xxxxxxxx wrote: > >The PVR is a great invention. And it is good to hear that the reliability >has become better (I rid myself of my PVR when my VHS had a 99 percent >reliability rate and my PVR was at 33 percent). But the cost is still >triple (or more) and the media is not removable or transferable, without >another box that is. Sure, I could buy another box, but should I really >have to? PVRs - at least the kind we have today - are transitional products. As you note, reliability has been an issue, but this is mostly due to problems with program guides and somewhat clunky software that can easily lead to operator errors. As I have noted, most PVRs allow you to back up to VHS today. A handful allow you to archive to DVD-R. But the real problem here is not the technology but Hollywood. You would already be seeing the kinds of products you want, if Hollywood was not working so hard to keep them off the market. Much of the complexity that is being added is in the content management layers, where devices must handshake, determine if you have the right to make a copy, and then allow you to move the bits around. We have seen many reports this past week about the ability to make copies being blocked either intentionally or inadvertently by distributors who can control downstream copying. ON the other hand, there are examples of systems that protect content that work quite well. Much of the success of the iPOD, and the iTunes store, can be attributed to a well designed end-to-end system that supports a reasonable set of rights for copying and moving your music across networks and between devices. There is nothing wrong with complexity, as long as it is behind the curtain, where it does not get in the way of the user. I find that most consumer electronics devices are several generations behind computer applications in terms of the human interface and ease-of-use. Some of this is due to the fact that the GUI for CE devices is typically a remote control with limited I/O versus a computer with a keyboard and mouse. But much of the complexity is just poor software and systems design. Remember a few years back when computer applications were broadly criticized for their branching tree structures where you might need to go through layers of menus to get to some functions? That's kinda where the CE guys are today, while next generation digital media appliances and applications have evolve into much improved interfaces. Each time an analyst says that Apple's dominance of the personal music player market is about to end, another analyst points out that the real reason that Apple is so dominant is the human interface to the process of managing and using your music collection. In short, complexity is not the issue. Managing complexity is the issue. Regards Craig > >In reality, the one box that can do all that the VHS VCR can is the >computer, with special hardware. But lets not even get started on the >complexity to actually make that work! > >I realize we need to move on to new technologies. But the point I want to >make is that in our digital world, we are making things more complex while >calling them "simpler". In some aspects, they are simpler, but still >require more equipment and expertise. > >Dan Grimes > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > >- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings >at FreeLists.org > >- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the >word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.