Right, so I was correct, and you were just waving your hands. WMV8 @ 386Kbits in 640x480@30fps is something you would not want to watch, even on a 3.7" screen. The same bitrate video at 320x240 is barely watchable. MY defined video needs are that the video is at least watchable, and I can sort of make out the shapes of people's faces -- not watch bouncing macroblocks. I think that is a fairly realistic expectation. Why pay for some pocket dvd wizard that just encapsulates windows media encoder when you can get virtualdub-mpeg2 and wme for free? Cheers Kon > You can believe me. But you have now put forward an expectation that was > not revealed earlier, so I can understand your disbelief. 1:32 length, > WMAudio 9.1 (48kbps, 32kHz, stereo), WMV V8, 386Kbps. You did not state > specific requirements for the VGA video, you have now applied specific > requirements for YOUR defined video needs that were not shared in the > earlier statements on the subject. > Go to: http://www.pocket-dvd-wizard.com/ for more details... > > In the end, it is all about what is acceptable for a given set of needs, > isn't it? > > Kon Wilms wrote: > > >2 hours of WMV at 640x480/30fps in 256Mb with a decent bitrate (>500) > >and >64kbit audio? I'll believe that when I see it. In fact, I flat out > >do not believe you. > > > >My statement is based on a 400Mhz ARM having troubles decoding 320x240 > >WMV video at anything over a few hundred kbits. Even a 600Mhz celeron > >falls over and skips frames on 640x480 wmv. > > > >Travel LCDs are usually never bigger than 7 inches diagonally (the > >limitation here is the headrest or flipdown panel and those are not > >going to change anytime soon -- well unless the next Navigator or Land > >Barge makes it to market). Given that we watch 720x480 on up to 35" tv > >sets, why would we need 640x480 on a 7 inch headrest monitor anywhere > >from 3 to up to 8 ft away. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.