[opendtv] Re: Poor quality PBS ATSC feeds
- From: "John Shutt" <shuttj@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:47:24 -0400
Kon,
You are not losing your mind. About two out of every three programs on the
PBS HD service is actually upconverted widescreen SD.
PBS delivers the HD service to member stations via an ATSC ready transport
stream. About 17 Mbps at 1080i. The macroblocking is awful. I've lobbied
PBS to convert their HD to 720p because of the limitations in the bandwidth,
but their reply is that 1080 is better than 720. Bigger number, I guess.
Then, the last question is was the local station you captured the video from
performing a multicast? More and more PBS programming directors seem to
believe they can broadcast an HD and two or three SDs simultaneously, with
predictable results.
We are no less guilty than most other stations, in that we broadcast one HD
(in 720p) and one SD. Stat muxing helps, and we are in the process of
upgrading our Tandberg encoders to add multipass encoding. But with the
expected improvement in encoding efficiency of multipath, our program
director plans to add two more SD services.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kon Wilms" <kon@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 8:32 PM
Subject: [opendtv] Poor quality PBS ATSC feeds
Folks,
Just an inquiry to check if I am not losing my mind (which may be true
regardless) -
Prior to NAB I captured a number of programs from local PBS stations
in LA (KOCE and others). Specifically wildlife, nova and other nature
feeds to use for 'demo' purposes. Well, until I actually got them onto
my PC and decided to play them fullscreen for a test. Half the
programming appeared to be upconverted 480p. The other half that was
720p or better had so much macroblocking from high compression that I
had to discard them completely. Unwatchable is an understatement.
Embarassing for whoever configured the encoder is probably more
spot-on.
Am I the only one having this experience?
Cheers
Kon
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Folks, Just an inquiry to check if I am not losing my mind (which may be true regardless) - Prior to NAB I captured a number of programs from local PBS stations in LA (KOCE and others). Specifically wildlife, nova and other nature feeds to use for 'demo' purposes. Well, until I actually got them onto my PC and decided to play them fullscreen for a test. Half the programming appeared to be upconverted 480p. The other half that was 720p or better had so much macroblocking from high compression that I had to discard them completely. Unwatchable is an understatement. Embarassing for whoever configured the encoder is probably more spot-on. Am I the only one having this experience? Cheers Kon
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- From: Kon Wilms