[opendtv] Re: Off topic: Researchers uncover potent greenhouse gas
- From: Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:16:14 -0400
Craig Birkmaier wrote:
> If we are to believe in the scientific method, then there is little to
> worry about in terms of climate change.
Sorry, but that is a still undecided question, no matter how firmly some
state the answer.
> Perhaps because most of them they are projections of changes that have
> not yet occurred.
I believe the main reason we evolved brains was to model changes that
have not yet occurred. And of course we often have to make choices and
allocate resources based upon insufficient information. One of those
choices of resource allocation is choosing what to worry about. We will
probably continue to disagree on this one until more data is available.
- Tom
At 6:11 PM -0400 10/29/08, Tom Barry wrote:
It is anyones God given right to not believe in established science or
the scientific method of discovery or discourse.
But those who do not believe it leads (sort of) to truth should
probably not attempt to use scientific or logical arguments to win
debates. They just won't be very good at it.
- Tom
It appears that in Bob's world, God has been replaced by the "religion"
of radical environmentalism.
If we are to believe in the scientific method, then there is little to
worry about in terms of climate change.
There are plenty of theories and computer models out there predicting
catastrophic climate changes, but NONE of them can be verified...
Perhaps because most of them they are projections of changes that have
not yet occurred.
I am MUCH more comfortable looking at the actual data we have for the
past few thousand years, and the analysis of this data (ala Easterbrook)
which points to the fact that there is nothing particularly unusual
about the weather patterns over the past century, much less that the
planet is warmer now then at any time in its past.
Regards
Craig
Noting that Greenland was once a highly productive agricultural region,
now covered with 100 feet of ice.
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At 6:11 PM -0400 10/29/08, Tom Barry wrote:
It is anyones God given right to not believe in established science or the scientific method of discovery or discourse.But those who do not believe it leads (sort of) to truth should probably not attempt to use scientific or logical arguments to win debates. They just won't be very good at it.- Tom
It appears that in Bob's world, God has been replaced by the "religion" of radical environmentalism.
If we are to believe in the scientific method, then there is little to worry about in terms of climate change.
There are plenty of theories and computer models out there predicting catastrophic climate changes, but NONE of them can be verified...
Perhaps because most of them they are projections of changes that have not yet occurred.
I am MUCH more comfortable looking at the actual data we have for the past few thousand years, and the analysis of this data (ala Easterbrook) which points to the fact that there is nothing particularly unusual about the weather patterns over the past century, much less that the planet is warmer now then at any time in its past.
Regards CraigNoting that Greenland was once a highly productive agricultural region, now covered with 100 feet of ice.
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