[opendtv] Re: Off topic
- From: Bob Miller <bob@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 01:32:55 -0500
Craig Birkmaier wrote:
>At 1:13 AM -0500 11/1/05, Bob Miller wrote:
>
>
>>(Off subject) You know when I was in the service, Army intelligence, if
>>we passed classified information to anyone it had to be identified as
>>such and the person receiving it had to have the security clearance
>>commensurate with the classification and be informed verbally if the
>>information was verbal. I didn't have to worry because I didn't have
>>access to the really good stuff nor access to the world. And had no idea
>>how much I knew that the world didn't. Like the coming invasion of
>>Cambodia, presence of B-52's flying missions from Okinawa to Vietnam and
>>the very real SR-71 which I liked to watch take off for flights over
>>China. Leaks caused people to die in Vietnam in a very direct way then
>>and sometimes the affects and the leak were all too well known.
>>
>> So Cheney goes to the CIA to find out what he can on Joe Wilson.
>>Someone volunteers that his wife is an agent and should have informed
>>Cheney of her status and the fact that her identity is classified.
>>Cheney has the clearance and understanding of what classified means. He
>>then passes this information to others in his office (all of whom have
>>high security clearance and the knowledge of what that means) and
>>likewise tells each person he informs that Wilson's wife's identity is
>>classified. Anyone of those who tells the press is leaking classified
>>material. Something Bush said he would fire such a person for. Later
>>changed to only if convicted.
>>
>>It is hard to break this chain with the statement "I didn't know her
>>identity was classified". That is insulting.
>>
>>
>
>And it would be inaccurate.
>
>The truth is that no law was broken - other than lying to a Grand Jury.
>
>Wilson's wife had not been in a covert position for nearly a decade.
>She was working at the Department of State as a liaison to the CIA.
>SHE is responsible for assigning her husband to the task of
>investigating the attempts by Sadam to buy yellow cake from Niger.
>
>
I think it has been shown that his wife had nothing to do with assigning
him to this mission. She was used to ask him to come in to be offered
the mission and she then supplied bona fides as to his credentials but
was not in the instigation of or the decision to send him.
Her identity was still classified information whether she was active
over seas or not. Her cover was intact and she was a asset. The leaking
of her identity jeopardize other agents using the same cover she still
used. And the people with classified access to her identity in the White
House did not have the right and I am sure they did not ascertain that
outing her was OK. If it was not technically criminal it was ethically
wrong and as holders of classified clearances the parties who leaked it
were knowledgeable of what they did. It should be criminal IMO. We will
see if it was.
Even the president said so when he first stated that he would fire
anyone involved in the leak before he back tracked and said they had to
be found criminally guilty. I am sure if Rove is found guilty Bush will
up the ante to someone who has received the death penalty.
The CIA instituted this investigation, demanded it because they thought
it was important enough. I think so also.
>This was a direct attempt to discredit the Bush administration.
>Wilson LIED in his editorial in the new York Times. This LIE is
>confirmed in his own book, which is the real reason that this whole
>affair became public. This is nothing more that inside the beltway
>politics.
>
>
I think it was an attempt to find out if the main thread of a
justification to go to war, WMD, would stand up to just checking it out.
Minimal due diligence. It didn't. Which really pissed off a gun slinger
administration. As I said I voted for his father twice and Reagan before
that twice but I never voted for this one and have never believed
anything he says. I trusted Powell. He was the only credible figure in
this administration for me and the canary who died.
>The whole ATSC affair is equally sordid, and I can assure you that
>more laws were broken in the AdvancedTelevision process than in this
>supposed leak case.
>
>
I am sure of that.
Bob Miller
>Regards
>Craig
>
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