Cliff Benham wrote: > I forgot to include this refrence : > http://www.cse.wustl.edu/~pless/omnivisFinal/nagahara.pdf > It includes some visualizations of the human field of > view. > > http://www.hitl.washington.edu/publications/r-95-5/ Cliff, thanks for these links. (The third one didn't work after two attempts at reconstructing the URL.) Both of these sites are great, but neither really answers the question of what aspect ratio a screen should be to look good. The idea of an enveloping helmet is different from a screen sitting some distance away. However, I think the information is very useful to determine what we want to know. The first link shown above concluded that 180 deg h and 60 deg v are feasible for this helmet device and are the right answer. The second link used 105 deg h by 40 deg v to show that more width provided more realism. How does this translate to what a screen aspect ratio should be? My claim is the screen should be quite wide compared to its height. Easily beyond 16:9. Why? Let's start with a 40" 16:9 screen, sitting 10 ft from the viewer. And let's assume the field of view of the viewer is a useful 180h X 60v degrees to start, then 180h X 120v to make Craig happy. Either way, what screen aspect ratios look better? A 40" 16:9 screen is about 20" high by 35" wide. At a distance of 120", this screen fills up 16.6 deg of horizontal field of view and 9.5 deg vertically. Is that good? Well, if our horizontal should be 180 deg, we are seeing 180 - 16.6 or 163.4 deg of distraction horizontally. Vertically, using their 60 deg desired figure, distraction is limited to 60 - 9.5 or 50.5 deg of vertical distraction. So clearly, 16:9 is not nearly wide enough. There's way much more distraction in the horizontal. But we actually see more like 120 deg vertically, so does that change anything? 120 - 9.5 is 110.5 deg, still MUCH less than 163.4 degrees of horizontal distraction. So either way, the 16:9 screen is not wide enough. Because distraction on the two sides is far greater than top and bottom. Okay, let's try a 50" 3:1 screen then. Pretty radical, right? A 50" 3:1 screen measures about 47" h and 16" v. At the same 120" viewing distance, 22.2 degrees h and 7.6 deg v are filled up with image. Even using the worst-case 120 deg vertical coverage, you still have 157.8 deg of horizontal distraction vs only 112.4 deg of vertical distraction. So even using Craig's preference for vertical coverage, the 3:1 screen is still too narrow. For practical reasons, and to minimize the width of annoying black bars, it seems logical to go for something that best approximates the majority of movie and (new) TV content. It seems to me that 16:9 is a good compromise. Certainly, 4:3 is NOT. By the way, lost in all of this was John Golitsis' observation, some time ago, that in his store, when he would place signs up high, even if within view, people would IGNORE them. Like they weren't there. This too should be a clue that vertical coverage is less important than horizontal coverage. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.