[opendtv] Re: News: Those licenses will soon be worthless...
- From: Codejones <codesjones@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: opentv <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:02:19 -0700
To clear this up the TSM1000 does only support the DSI, but there
TSM/TSS 2800 supports the published Ethernet table interface. Triveni
is the only company that I know of for sure that has implemented the
interface. I think that Linx has also implemented this interface, but I
am not sure. All of the LI Mux's have always supported table insertion
through the ASI/SMPTE 310 interfaces. They also support the carouseling,
in the event the the table generator *crashes*. This of course NEVER
HAPPENS.
The LI mux also support a rules based user interface to force map the
PIDs to comply with any standard, now and tomorrow.
The 18K is for the fully licensed TSS with all 8 inputs and outputs.
You can buy it as a TSM with 2, 4, 6 and 8 inputs and save money. This
is a bargain compared to the Thales or Tandberg mux.
I can get you a copy of there open Ethernet specification.
Codejones
On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 11:29 -0700, John Willkie wrote:
> Yes, but the LI TSS/TSM-2800 is a 18K+ "solution.."
>
> And, "ATSC harmonization recommendattion" is moot: you cannot use pids
> below 48. That's now in the a/53 spec and the code point document, the
> program paradigm has been eliminated, and the harmonization recommendation
> only applied to pids between 16 and 31.
>
> While the -1000 Logic Innovations mux supports only the Triveni DSI (data
> server interface), the -2800s support DVB-ASI, Ethernet and DSI interfaces.
> Last I heard (I forgot to raise this matter with Phil England, LI's
> engineering jefe last week), however, only the Ethernet port input permits
> you to mux live table sections into the transport stream. I do know that
> using the DVB-ASI input for table sections (live and carouseling) was in
> their "to-do" list, and is listed in their Remote Section Management
> Protocol document.
>
> BTW, the spelling is Triveni, not Trivini (or Trevino, as I once spelt it.)
>
> I was wondering when/if they would address PSI, and am suprised to hear they
> partially support DVB-SI: I wonder what the customer request was.
>
> John Willkie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Codejones" <codesjones@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "opentv" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:35 AM
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: News: Those licenses will soon be worthless...
>
>
> > The Trivini GB also uses the Ethernet with the Logic Innovations Mux and
> > the Logic Innovations Mux can also take ASI in or SMPTE 310 and output
> > both ASI and SMPTE 310. The Logic Innovations Mux also can
> > automatically remap PIDs to comply to the ATSC harmonizing
> > recommendation.
> >
> >
> > Codejones
> >
> > On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 12:09 -0400, John Shutt wrote:
> > > CJ,
> > >
> > > As Mr. Willkie pointed out, the ATSC chicken came first, then it laid
> the
> > > DVB-SI egg, so you are correct.
> > >
> > > However, it still spits out it's data to our multiplexer using DVB-ASI!
> ;^)
> > > Only our exciter uses SMPTE 310, and it is a bear to keep pristine.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Codejones" <codesjones@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "opentv" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:04 PM
> > > Subject: [opendtv] Re: News: Those licenses will soon be worthless...
> > >
> > >
> > > > The Trivini system was written to support PSIP tables and then later
> > > > modified to support the MPEG PSI tables in the cases that the encoder
> > > > could not be configured correctly. They later added the support for a
> > > > few of the DVB SI tables, but are not fully compliant.
> > > >
> > > > With that being said you are correct it is not "exclusively ATSC" my
> > > > bad.
> > > >
> > > > Codejones
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 19:40 -0400, John Shutt wrote:
> > > >> In what way? The PSIP generator written by Trevini was based on
> their
> > > >> DVB-SI generator, with a few tweaks, and with a few DVB centric
> option
> > > >> boxes
> > > >> grayed out. It's an adaptation, like most of our other gear.
> > > >>
> > > >> John
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Codejones" <codesjones@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > John you forgot about that PSIP generator...
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Codejones
> > > >>
> > > >> >> About the only thing that is exclusively ATSC is our Axcera
> exciter.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> John Shutt
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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