[opendtv] Re: News: If There's a High-Definition TV in Your Future, Wait Till
- From: Craig Birkmaier <craig@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:17:12 -0400
At 5:51 PM -0400 8/25/07, Albert Manfredi wrote:
Craig Birkmaier wrote:
Thus it appears that at least 2/3's of U.S. homes may eventually buy
displays that are not capable of delivering the HDTV viewing
experience. This is not good news for Blu-Ray and HD-DVD...
37" and larger TVs can show a real difference in image quality
between SD and HD source material. Not only that, but if they are
also used for games and for Internet TV, which involves web
browsing, then they would clearly benefit from resolutions beyond
simple VGA or 480i, which is even less than VGA.
I don't know exactly what this "HDTV experience" means to you, but
to me, it makes sense to feed these displays with image quality
beyond 480i. If 2/3 of US households can make use of that quality in
the near future, I'd say that's "mainstream."
I never said anything about 480i... We all know that Interlace sucks.
Standard Definition DVD is far better than 480i, and approached 480P
when the source is 24P film. I am not saying that one cannot achieve
even better 480P at 60P or that SD DVDs deliver the maximum vertical
detail possible. But movies are not about resolution. Even Doug
admits that the film content looks softer in HD than live HD video
such as sports.
There is plenty of additional resolution that can be delivered with
properly encoded 480P source, and we could deliver even more if we
increased the horizontal resolution to around 100 samples per
line...but we've been through this too many times over the years.
The real issue with 40 inch displays is the preferred viewing
distance. If you are willing to sit five feet from the screen, you
will see the difference between 480P and 720P - by the way Doug you
would NOT see any improvement with Blu-Ray on a 40 inch screen at
five feet, unless you are looking at one of their demo discs where
the purposely blur the SD-DVD content. The problem is that the vast
majority of consumers will not sit five feet from a 40 inch display -
7-10 feet is typical.
As to the new DVD formats, oh well. They didn't exactly make it easy
for consumers to love them, what with their inability to create a
single standard. Regular DVD, with its 10 Mb/s peak bandwidth, is
plenty good enough for the time being, on a good deinterlacing
display, IMO.
Why use a de-interlacing display. Get a DVD player with progressive output.
The main point i was trying to make by posting the article and
comment is that the Average Consumer who buys an HD capable display
will have little use for one of the HD disc formats.
For what it is worth, I am happy to let the broadcasters waste their
bandwidth on 720P. It is in the world of downloaded content that
480/576P will get a strong foothold. The 480 x 320 stuff on my iPhone
looks outstanding.
Regards
Craig
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Craig Birkmaier wrote:
Thus it appears that at least 2/3's of U.S. homes may eventually buy displays that are not capable of delivering the HDTV viewing experience. This is not good news for Blu-Ray and HD-DVD...
37" and larger TVs can show a real difference in image quality between SD and HD source material. Not only that, but if they are also used for games and for Internet TV, which involves web browsing, then they would clearly benefit from resolutions beyond simple VGA or 480i, which is even less than VGA.
I don't know exactly what this "HDTV experience" means to you, but to me, it makes sense to feed these displays with image quality beyond 480i. If 2/3 of US households can make use of that quality in the near future, I'd say that's "mainstream."
As to the new DVD formats, oh well. They didn't exactly make it easy for consumers to love them, what with their inability to create a single standard. Regular DVD, with its 10 Mb/s peak bandwidth, is plenty good enough for the time being, on a good deinterlacing display, IMO.
- [opendtv] Re: News: If There's a High-Definition TV in Your Future, Wait Till
- From: Albert Manfredi