[opendtv] News: Cisco, Apple settle iPhone lawsuit
- From: Craig Birkmaier <craig@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:33:32 -0500
On January 11th i responded to one of many outbursts from John "the
lawyer" Willkie:
At 9:42 AM -0800 1/11/07, John Willkie wrote:
iPhone? I thought that was a trademark of Cisco and used in the marketplace
by their Linksys subsidiary for a year or more. An article in today's paper
says that Apple and Cisco were in talks about use of the trademark for
months, but Apple hadn't inked it before Job's announcement.
Now, they're being sued by Cisco, and they will probably be hit for willful
infringement. Good to see that the Apple reality-distortion-field is still
well in place.
It's a PR stunt John. And it is working.
Rather than spouting off, as you are so won't to do, why don't you
wait to see where this "conflict" ends up. MY guess - backed up by
several articles I have read - is that it will involve some cross
licensing agreement that will benefit both companies, not a large
cash exchange.
Regards
Craig
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8NEFNJ02.htm
Cisco, Apple settle iPhone lawsuit
By JORDAN ROBERTSON
BW Exclusives
SAN JOSE, Calif.
Cisco Systems Inc. and Apple Inc. said Wednesday they have settled
the trademark-infringement lawsuit that threatened to derail Apple's
use of the "iPhone" name for its much-hyped new iPod-cellular phone
gadget.
The companies said they reached an agreement that will allow Apple to
use the name for its sleek new multimedia device in exchange for
exploring wide-ranging "interoperability" between the companies'
products in the areas of security, consumer and business
communications.
The showdown between the Silicon Valley tech heavyweights erupted
last month when Cisco sued Apple in San Francisco federal court
claiming that Apple's use of the iPhone name constituted a "willful
and malicious" violation of a trademark that Cisco has owned since
2000.
Cisco's Linksys division has been using the trademark since last
spring on a line of phones that make free long-distance calls over
the Internet using a technology called Voice over Internet Protocol,
or VoIP.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/22/technology/22apple.html?th&emc=th
Settlement Lets Apple Use 'iPhone'
By BRAD STONE
Published: February 22, 2007
SAN FRANCISCO, Feb. 21 - Apple and Cisco Systems have decided that a
name is not worth fighting over.
On Wednesday, the companies settled their dispute over the iPhone
trademark. Six weeks ago, Cisco filed a lawsuit in federal court in
San Francisco over Apple's planned use of the name for its much
anticipated multimedia device, which combines the features of a
mobile phone, an iPod and a BlackBerry.
Cisco claimed that it had owned the trademark since 2000 and was
using it for a line of Internet-connected phones.
Wednesday night, in a short, ambiguously worded statement, the
companies said they would dismiss all legal action against each other
regarding the trademark and that Apple could use the name for its
device, which it plans to start selling in June.
In addition, the companies said they would explore ways to make their
identically named iPhone products work together "in the areas of
security and consumer and enterprise communication."
Representatives for Apple and Cisco said other terms of the deal
would remain confidential. It is not known if Apple made a cash
payment to Cisco, but intellectual property lawyers say some sort of
payment is typical in these cases. It is also unclear whether Cisco
had sold Apple the name iPhone outright and had then secured
permission to use it itself.
But the deal appears to give a partial victory to both sides. Apple
can begin selling its phone with the name that its strong-willed
chief executive, Steven P. Jobs, seemed to prefer.
Cisco can also continue to use the name, and with the promise of
interoperability, it might have some of the hype and magic
surrounding Apple's products rub off on its own less prominent
offerings.
Hostilities broke out between the two companies last month, when Mr.
Jobs announced the music phone at the annual Macworld convention in
San Francisco.
Cisco, the networking company based in San Jose, Calif., was using
the name to sell phones that can plug into a PC or connect with a
wireless hot spot and make free calls over the Internet.
The two companies negotiated intensely over the trademark in early
January. Executives had planned to make announcements concurrently at
the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas and at Macworld,
proclaiming the links between their iPhone products.
After talks broke down and Mr. Jobs announced his iPhone anyway,
Cisco filed a lawsuit, saying that Apple's use of the iPhone name
constituted a "willful and malicious" violation of Cisco's
intellectual property. In response, Apple called the lawsuit "silly"
and noted publicly that several companies besides Cisco were using
the iPhone name.
Cisco's lawsuit described covert Apple attempts to obtain the rights
to the iPhone name. In September 2006, a corporation calling itself
Ocean Telecom Services filed an application for the trademark based
on earlier filings in Trinidad and Tobago. In its complaint, Cisco
asserted that Apple was behind the efforts.
But while they flung legal accusations at each other, both companies
faced significant pressure to settle. Apple's iPhone will be released
in June and will be available to customers of the AT&T wireless
network, which was formerly known as Cingular Wireless. If Apple had
failed to settle with Cisco and subsequently lost the battle in
court, it could have been liable for financial penalties for each
unit that it sold.
But Cisco also faced a strong incentive to reach a deal.
"Cisco had to provide access to the trademark to Apple if it wanted
to achieve the highest value for the name. There was no potential
second buyer who would have equaled Apple's desire for the iPhone
mark," said Alan Fisch, an intellectual-property lawyer at Kaye
Scholer in Washington.
He added that Cisco also faced the reality that consumers associated
the name more with Apple.
"The iPhone name has been informally synonymous with an anticipated
Apple phone for years prior to the product's formal announcement," he
said.
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At 9:42 AM -0800 1/11/07, John Willkie wrote:
iPhone? I thought that was a trademark of Cisco and used in the marketplace by their Linksys subsidiary for a year or more. An article in today's paper says that Apple and Cisco were in talks about use of the trademark for months, but Apple hadn't inked it before Job's announcement. Now, they're being sued by Cisco, and they will probably be hit for willful infringement. Good to see that the Apple reality-distortion-field is still well in place.
It's a PR stunt John. And it is working.Rather than spouting off, as you are so won't to do, why don't you wait to see where this "conflict" ends up. MY guess - backed up by several articles I have read - is that it will involve some cross licensing agreement that will benefit both companies, not a large cash exchange.
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