[opendtv] Re: New Thread: What becomes of Legacy Analog Equipment
- From: Craig Birkmaier <craig@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:42:43 -0500
At 10:58 AM -0500 11/27/07, Manfredi, Albert E wrote:
John Shutt wrote:
And Bert's insistence to the contrary, I know very well we
could have done better.
Some people are just inconsolable.
The facts are, one by one all the oft-repeated objections to 8-VSB have
dropped by the wayside, as was predictable from fairly early on. The
dreaded cliff effect remains, of course, which affects all modulation
schemes. It would be great to do another comparison test now, but since
no one would benefit from it, it won't happen. Alas.
And some people are just blinded with optimism.
All you are able to relate is that the ATSC system has become usable
by a handful of laggards who are unwilling or unable to pay a monthly
subscriber fee for their TV fix.
For now the ATSC system will work as advertised for a the very small
percentage of the population that uses an antenna. Will this continue
to be true in a few years?
What will happen to the image quality of programming if and when
broadcasters decide that they want to reach portable and mobile
receivers? New services will need to steal bits from existing
services - bits that will need even more bits to get delivered
reliably using a standard that is still being developed. In other
words, ALL legacy receivers WILL NOT be able to use these new
services, but the quality of the existing services is likely to be
compromised.
There are SO MANY ways we could have done better:
- A modulation system that has the flexibility to be optimized for
different services on the fly, WITHOUT a hefty bit penalty for the
more demanding MPH modes.
- A spectrum allocation system that would have forced the
broadcasters to use SFNs to provide BETTER coverage of their markets
WITHOUT radiating into adjacent markets, with the net result of
improved spectral efficiency that would allow EVERY market to have at
least twice as many channels.
- A political/regulatory environment that would have removed the
anti-competitive perks that broadcasters are using to avoid
competition with multi-channel systems.
- A well defined platform that supports news services and the ability
to extend the capabilities of the system using software defined
functionality as is the case with web browsers.
We are all glad for you Bert. The ATSC has succeeded in its quest to
replicate the NTSC service. Hope you are enjoying the better pictures
and sound, and the same lame, old, dying programming.
Regards
Craig
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John Shutt wrote:
And Bert's insistence to the contrary, I know very well we could have done better.
Some people are just inconsolable. The facts are, one by one all the oft-repeated objections to 8-VSB have dropped by the wayside, as was predictable from fairly early on. The dreaded cliff effect remains, of course, which affects all modulation schemes. It would be great to do another comparison test now, but since no one would benefit from it, it won't happen. Alas.
- [opendtv] Re: New Thread: What becomes of Legacy Analog Equipment
- From: Manfredi, Albert E