Craig Birkmaier wrote: > What Bert does not acknowledge, perhaps because he is > dependent on the broadcasters for PSIP and program guide > info, is that the real driver behind the DVR is the program > guide, not the ability to record. Depends who you ask, I suppose. Remember how peeved I was when TV Guide went frivolous? It became a mag for pre-teen and teenage girls some months ago. The reason I was peeved is that there is no good alternative for those who want to do time-shift recording, unless they give up and let themselves be subjected to another monthly bill. Which I find exceedingly obnoxious to do for such a mundane function as time-shift recording. So what I've been doing is using on-line zap2it.com to get my schedule. A week or so in advance. Print out prime time (mostly) programs. Or I buy the Sunday paper and use the TV schedule insert. Neither of these is ideal, but they'll do for me. PSIP, as implemented now, is not a good option at all. In principle, it could be, however. The two problems I see are (a) receivers don't store all stations' schedules in advance, so it's painfully slow to browse the program offerings, and (b) stations are amazingly blase about the information they do provide, and you're lucky if it even shows the next day's schedule. Bert _________________________________________________________________ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_MediaCtr_bigscreen_102007 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.