[opendtv] Re: Microsoft's Masters: Whose Rules Does Your Media Center Play By?
- From: "Dale Kelly" <dalekelly@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 12:31:45 -0700
Posted today by Broadcast Engineering Mag.
http://broadcastengineering.com/news/nbc-inadvertently-uses-broadcast-flag-0526/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John Willkie
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 10:51 AM
> To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: Microsoft's Masters: Whose Rules Does Your Media
> Center Play By?
>
>
> boy, are you off the mark.
>
> Prove me wrong. Point me to the "law", "court holding",
> "regulation" or "policy" that respecting the broadcast flag
> violates. You said "illegal" not "unlawful", so this would have
> to be one of the above that imposes criminal penalties. And, I
> gave you more latitude above -- I didn't limit you to a law.
>
> Hint: there are none.
>
> I provided extensive links on this, including links to blog posts
> from 2005 and 2006 from the MS team leader saying that they were
> (then) observing the flag as meaning CGMS "CopyOnce." Now, it's
> "CopyNever."
>
> It could be a bug in the code, but more likely it was a conscious
> decision, since rewriting code isn't a bug per se.
>
> NBC's part in this is that they asserted the flag in their
> broadcasts. GE's part in this is that they own and control NBC.
>
> So, you'll only buy a computer without an operating system so
> that you can install Vista yourself? MS stops support for OS's
> after a while, but humans tend to continue to go on until they
> meet their maker.
>
> John Willkie
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: "Richard C. Ramsden" <ramsden@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: May 24, 2008 10:19 PM
> >To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [opendtv] Re: Microsoft's Masters: Whose Rules Does
> Your Media Center Play By?
> >
> >Microsoft is in an odd position. Technically respecting the "broadcast
> >flag" is illegal.
> >But, since they could claim it's just a bug in their code...
> >I will never buy a computer with vista installed.
> >
> >I'm still trying to figure out what GE's goal is in this episode.
> >
> >Monty Solomon wrote:
> >> May 19th, 2008
> >> Microsoft's Masters: Whose Rules Does Your Media Center Play By?
> >> Posted by Danny O'Brien
> >>
> >> While its customers are still puzzling over why Vista Media Center is
> >> suddenly refusing to record over-the-air NBC digital TV, Microsoft
> >> has come out with an astounding admission, courtesy of Greg Sandoval
> >> at CNet News:
> >>
> >> "Microsoft included technologies in Windows based on rules set
> >> forth by the (Federal Communications Commission)," a Microsoft
> >> spokeswoman wrote in an e-mail to CNET News.com. "As part of these
> >> regulations, Windows Media Center fully adheres to the flags used by
> >> broadcasters and content owners to determine how their content is
> >> distributed and consumed."
> >>
> >> Microsoft's statement shines light on how Microsoft expects Media
> >> Center to behave. If this is the company's explanation for what users
> >> are seeing when attempting to record digital NBC broadcasts
> >> over-the-air, then Microsoft is saying Vista obeys the broadcast
> >> flag: a requirement rejected by courts and Congress.
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >>
> http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/05/microsofts-masters-whose-rule
s-does-your-media-cen
>>
>>
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