[opendtv] Re: Microsoft Exec: 1080p HDTV Is Meaningless
- From: Craig Birkmaier <craig@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:29:32 -0400
At 4:28 PM +0100 8/21/06, peter wilson wrote:
Non Square pixels were never a real problem, TV 2D and 3D DVE's worked fine
in the 1980's. Now even the computer guy's who didn't understand the math
can use square or rectangular pixels at will. The great majority of Flat
displays are using odd numbers of rectangular pixels and yes you do get a
significant number of incompetent processors but most of the main brands are
now ok.
My 2 cents...
Pixel geometry has never been an issue when working with images that
are acquired using proper sampling techniques - i.e. proper filtering
according to Shannon, Nyquist, etc. These images can easily be
resampled and displayed using any pixel geometry. The only
significant issue here is that there are always some quality losses
when resampling to higher sample counts, or for very small changes in
sample counts.
Pixel geometry has ALWAYS been an issue when generating and
displaying non-Nyquist limited samples, as is the case with most
computer applications and displays. When these samples are resampled
most of the benefits of using non-Nyquist samples are lost; in most
cases the results are far worse than resampling Nyquist limited
samples.
Square pixels quickly became the "lingua franca" of the computer
world, as they allow maximum contrast for applications that do not
need the filtering required for "natural" imagery. Virtually all
"lithographed" displays manufactured today use orthogonal sample
grids so that they can take full advantage of non-Nyquist limited
sources (including their own internally generated graphics).
Many of these displays use sample grids with aspect ratios and sample
densities that have nothing to do with the "video formats" that some
people think are important. Hence we see 16:10 aspect ratios and
sample grids with 768 lines. These displays have no problem
presenting natural images (video and still images) since the samples
are properly filtered, and resampling to the display raster can be
accomplished with minimal degradation of image quality.
So Square pixels do matter, at least in the display, if you intend to
use the display to present video, still images and non-Nyquist
limited images.
Regards
Craig
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Non Square pixels were never a real problem, TV 2D and 3D DVE's worked fine in the 1980's. Now even the computer guy's who didn't understand the math can use square or rectangular pixels at will. The great majority of Flat displays are using odd numbers of rectangular pixels and yes you do get a significant number of incompetent processors but most of the main brands are now ok.
My 2 cents...
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