jeezus. CGMS actually is a superset of Macrovision, as I understand it from Adam's postings on this list. And, last time I checked, NOBODY has ever taken Macrovision to court, nor CGMS. Certainly it hasn't been ruled an infringement of anyone's rights. Now, where is that 2x4? John Willkie -----Original Message----- >From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Jun 27, 2008 4:42 PM >To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [opendtv] Re: MPAA wants to stop DVRs from recording some movies > >Adam Goldberg wrote: > >> You're looking at two different things. >> >> 1) It's illegal (for anyone) to circumvent effective >> technological means. >> 2) It's illegal (for suppliers) to protect non-PPV, >> non-premium subscription content, non-prerecorded media >> "do not record" via Macrovision >> >> These are two completely orthogonal things. > >Sure, I'll agree. That's why I started this thread saying that it was >perhaps a combination of what broadcasters were doing, and the fact that >CE vendors allowed them that control that they should not have, that was >creating the problem. My suggestions for how a PVR should be programmed >were intended to make the system more fool-proof. > >You know, sort of like locking your car. No one is allowed to steal >stuff from your car, or steal the car itself. That does NOT mean that >car manufacturers don't need to install locks, however. They should, >definitely. > >(Oh, by the way, you aren't suggesting above that you think Macrovision >copy protection is substantially different from CGMS or the so-called >broadcast flag, are you? I mean, as far as the various court decisions >go.) > >Bert > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > >- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at >FreeLists.org > >- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word >unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.