I guess I'm getting my history and laws mixed up. I was under the impression that there is an element of "fair use" when it comes to media, no matter which delivery platform (OTA, MVPD, physical) the media is received. I realize there is no specific law that provides this "fair use" but there are plenty of court cases that have upheld this philosophy. Perhaps it is very complicated since there is no particular law out there that defines fair use. Certainly, there are laws as to what it means to hold copyright and if that is being infringed upon. Many court cases have attempted to provide the line between copyright and fair use. So, one question is, does the ability to time-shift a movie (i.e. record on a DVR) that is received through an MVPD violate copyright? I would argue not, but certainly the MVPD wants to control the ability for the populous to record, thus protect, it's material. The other question is, can the owner of media prevent you from recording the media; in other words, does this violate fair use?\ Dan "Adam Goldberg" <adam_g@xxxxxxxxx > To Sent by: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> opendtv-bounce@fr cc eelists.org Subject [opendtv] Re: MPAA wants to stop 06/26/2008 06:43 DVRs from recording some movies AM Please respond to opendtv@freelists .org ... Whether there’s a right or not gets down to lots of things, but among them is Fair Use, which is an element of the first amendment. Someone with more philosophy than me can determine whether that’s a civil right or whatever.