[opendtv] Re: MPAA wants to stop DVRs from recording some movies

When you go into pit bull mode like this you are merely acting as a troll. I doubt you will either discredit Bert or drive him from the list with these tactics but it does make things somewhat less pleasant here. 

Maybe we could tone it down a bit.

- Tom

John Willkie wrote:

what a fool.  Using a (not merely) negative [actually a declining to address 
somthing relating to one system for delivering media] to ASSert a positive 
relating to a totally different system for delivering media.

"created out of thin air."
Here's his legal 'doctrine.' I WANT! I WANT! I WANT! So, there IS A LAW. Nothing else, and EVERY LEGAL PRECEDENT either silent or to the contrary. What a pearl. 
I'm sure that the same type of 'legal' analysis was used by others at his 
employer to:

1) Charge $600 to the government for an off-the-shelf crescent wrench
2) Charge $900 to the government for an almost-off-the-shelf toilet seat cover
3) Bribe several Navy official (directly using Boeing funds) through one Melvin 
Paisley
4) Bribe (by hiring, despite a non-disclosure agreement) a Northrup-Grumman 
employee, with a bonus when he 'brought along' confidential cost-estimate 
documents from Northrup-Grumman that Boeing OFFICIALs then used to 'bid-rig' 
their competing bid to the government
5) Agreeing to hire Colleen Druyan from her Air Force position (secretly) 
effectively on the proposition that she throw the Air Force replacement tanker 
contract to Boeing.
6) Harvey Stonecipher (married) having an affair with a female subordinate 
(also married) while spending company funds and company time on executing and 
hiding the affair.

Bert obviously, and his company, also obviously, were born without original 
sin.  They are incarnately inerrable.  When others go to jail, it was the fault 
of the errant, not them.

Charlemange lives!  The devine right of kings, indeed.
I guess I will have to find more misdeeds of Boeing officials to pepper Bert's responses on this thread. Also, note that I'm cc'ing abuse@xxxxxxxxxxx 
John Willkie

-----Original Message-----

From: Albert Manfredi <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Jun 29, 2008 8:39 PM
To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [opendtv] Re: MPAA wants to stop DVRs from recording some movies


Adam Goldberg wrote:


FCC 00-341 says NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING about this.

We disagree. By refusing to make a decision, the FCC gives MVPDs carte blanche 
wrt copy protection, which OTA broadcasters do not have. In effect, that is 
taking a stand.

I'll indulge in some of the same "logical" thinking we see on here from 
[expletive deleted].

If a book author wants to display his book in my house, I am well within my rights 
to negotiate my terms with him. As in, "sure, go ahead and display it, but only 
IF YOU AGREE to let me quote from it, make photocopies of certain sections for my 
own use, or for other uses I specify ahead of time.

That is what the US Govt is doing here, ON OUR BEHALF. It is saying to content 
owners and to broadcasters, "If you guys want to air this content over the RF 
spectrum owned by the public, and which broadcasters are allotted on condition of 
following certain rules, THEN we, the people, are going to negotiate the terms.

"Our terms are [Betamax case, 17 USC 1201]. If you don't like our terms, we agree 
that you own the content and have rights to it, so please take your content elsewhere for 
display."

And more, we, the people, are saying to broadcasters that if they want to use 
the publically-owned TV RF spectrum, they have to transmit at least one free 
and clear SDTV stream. Or take their business elsewhere.

By the way, I think it is the tactic of the complete idiots and morons to try 
to silence opposing points of view through insults. Deep down, pathetic, 
self-loathing bullies and narcisists. No one worthy of respect, for sure. 
Surely, we can agree on that much?

Bert

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